Canvas Tool
I am trying to work my way around the canvas tool. So far, I find it the most frustrating tool to try to use; but perhaps that is my lack of knowledge. But in learning about it I see on the website where you can create charts and diagrams. How would you go about doing that? I even see one screen shot where it looks like there is a timeline in the canvas. How would you go about creating those charts and how would you make your work space bigger or your fonts smaller? Thanks!
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Have not used it much but try this video on Logos Support.
https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018175571-Canvas
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It is incredibly frustrating. Until they make some serious changes to it, I will not use it. It is utterly useless from point of view.
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Ed Dingess said:
It is incredibly frustrating. Until they make some serious changes to it, I will not use it. It is utterly useless from point of view.
Just an FYI: Canvas is simply the Logos implementation of a popular open source product, draw.io IIRC, Check for training materials for draw.io.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I think it would be extremely helpful if a few FL folks intensively used BibleArc phrasing, diagramming, arcing, bracketing for a week or so. What takes 15 minutes in BibleArc and is extremely intuitive takes an hour or more in Logos Canvas/Sentence Diagramming. And the result is fragile and hard to later work with. The Logos UI for these tools is fraught with latency, and yet BibleArc runs in the browser.
Really amazes me...
Donnie
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Donnie Hale said:
What takes 15 minutes in BibleArc and is extremely intuitive takes an hour or more in Logos Canvas/Sentence Diagramming. And the result is fragile and hard to later work with. The Logos UI for these tools is fraught with latency, and yet BibleArc runs in the browser.
My take on this is a bit different. Bible Arc on a browser is a single purpose, single purpose tool so naturally it will be faster and more intuitive unless it was designed and coded by idjits. However, I find that once I get the hang of Canvas for a particular purpose such as Bible Arcing, it is easy to use and nearly as quick as the specialized browser tool. What I miss and keep pushing for is templates of the permissible relationships both here and in tree diagrams. There are several coding schemes and I want to choose one and be consistently reminded of what it and is not in that scheme.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Now all of a sudden when I put a text box into the canvas, it will not type inside of the box. Am I doing something wrong?
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I have to agree. I have always loved draw.io, however, Canvas is way too buggy to use. It's a great idea but unusable in its current version. It is frustrating to pay a premium price for buggy components. That being said, i've found the other components in Logos to work well. Canvas is the exception. Hopefully FL will fix Canvas. It has a ton of potential but it's not ready for production release.
Workaround:
I'm just using draw.io for now. Since it's the same platform, copy and paste between Canvas and draw.io works well. If I need to use a Canvas feature, I will populate the content in Canvas, then copy and paste it into draw.io.
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Daniel Clay said:
I'm just using draw.io for now.
Since canvas is an implementation of draw.io, that is a good choice.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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