When do we get Codex Vaticanus into Logos

We have Codex Sinaiticus in Logos.
https://www.logos.com/product/35581/codex-sinaiticus

“This transcription was made by a project funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council (AHRC) whose policy is that all digital data produced by its research projects should be made freely available online. The transcription of New Testament books was developed from a transcription made in the Institut für neutestamentliche Textforschung, Münster, as part of the New Testament Transcripts project.”

When do we get Codex Vaticanus? [[or is it here but can not be found?]]

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MJ. Smith

When do we get Codex Vaticanus? [[or is it here but can not be found?]]

What would you suggest as a good electronic source - preferable free as the Sinaiticus version?

David Ames

When do we get Codex Vaticanus? [[or is it here but can not be found?]]

What would you suggest as a good electronic source - preferable free as the Sinaiticus version?

You make a suggestion and someone tells you if you want it done do it yourself. [[That is what MJ Smith has been doing for all the years that I have watched her on this forum. She does not always give us a fish but often shows us how to fish. Thank for the years of fishing lessons!]]

Googled Codex Vaticanus B PDF and found

From http://www.truebiblecode.com/codexvaticanus.html

Download the entire New Testament of the Codex Vaticanus B as a Word 2000 document in the bwgrkl.ttf font [[Looks Weird in any other font]]

Matthew 5:22 [from Logos versions]

BYZ εγω δε λεγω υμιν οτι πας ο οργιζομενος τω αδελφω αυτου εικη ενοχος εσται τη κρισει ος δ αν ειπη τω αδελφω αυτου ρακα ενοχος εσται τω συνεδριω ος δ αν ειπη μωρε ενοχος εσται εις την γεενναν του πυρος

TR1881 ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι πᾶς ὁ ὀργιζόμενος τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ εἰκῆ ἔνοχος ἔσται τῇ κρίσει· ὃς δʼ ἂν εἴπῃ τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ, ̓ρακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ· ὃς δʼ ἂν εἴπῃ, Μωρέ, ἔνοχος ἔσται εἰς τὴν γέενναν τοῦ πυρός.

SBLGNT ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι πᾶς ὁ ὀργιζόμενος τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ ἔνοχος ἔσται τῇ κρίσει· ὃς δʼ ἂν εἴπῃ τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ· Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ· ὃς δʼ ἂν εἴπῃ· Μωρέ, ἔνοχος ἔσται εἰς τὴν γέενναν τοῦ πυρός.

22 κρισει · ⸀ εγω δε λεγω ‾̷‾ ϋμιν οτι πᾶς ὁ ορ γιζομενος τω αδελφω ἁυτου ° ενοχος εστε τη κρισει · ος δ αν εί πη τω αδελφω ἁυτου ραχα ενο χος εσται τω συ νεδριω ˙ ὁς δʼ αν
International Greek New Testament Project (IGNTP). (2012). Codex Sinaiticus: Septuagint and New Testament (Mt 5:21–22). Cambridge, UK: The Codex Sinaiticus Project Board.

Mat 5:22 egw de legw umin oti paj o orgizomenoj tw adelfw autou enocoj estai th krisei oj d an eiph tw adelfw autou raka enocoj estai tw sunedriw oj d an eiph mwre enocoj estai eij thn geennan tou puroj [[to read need to change to font BWGRKL available on site below.]]

From http://www.truebiblecode.com/codexvaticanus.html

[[Yes, it will / would take a lot of work to get it into Logos]]

David Ames

[[Yes, it will / would take a lot of work to get it into Logos]]

So I tried building a PBB using that font -

[Info] Starting build for PBB:e8f8207fa3e04ab0b9e41634ac77804e
[Info] Converting C:\Users\User1\Documents\bible study\ZZ PBB\dummy.docx
[Error] Font 'Bwgrkl' is not a valid font for use in resources.
[Info] Discovering
[Info] Complete

PPB Does not accept font 'Bwgrkl' [which is a Bible Works Greek Font]

However it shows the text in Greek on the screen apparently as I have that font on my computer but if I try to copy and paste the text else where it does not carry the Bwgrkl font with it. [need to reset the font to Bwgrkl to read it]

So the first step will need to be to copy the text to a pure text editor file and then convert that text to some standard Greek font.

[[Am going to have to learn Python]] [[the 'FUN' part is that that font seems to store accents as the next character rather than as a single character]]

MJ. Smith

You make a suggestion and someone tells you if you want it done do it yourself.

The reason I asked was because the Sinaiticus had a free, very clean copy available to FL. If we could find a similarly "academic" free, electronic copy of Codx Vaticanus, the I suspect we could get it through FL quite quickly. I was hoping that you, or others, knew of such a source - or that you knew such a source was being made. Seems like we need to find a grant and get Rick Brannan interested in the project ...he'll be an uphill battle but ...

David Ames

You make a suggestion and someone tells you if you want it done do it yourself.

The reason I asked was because the Sinaiticus had a free, very clean copy available to FL.

Oh, I thought that you were giving me more 'fishing lessons'.

Not sure how good the one I found is but have found that it matches at least one spot that the NET notes list that C V and C S differ,

David Ames

[[the 'FUN' part is that that font seems to store accents as the next character rather than as a single character]]

The good news is that there do not seem to be any accents in the Greek text so the font conversion is a one to one swap of letter codes.

Ken McGuire

Mat 5:22 egw de legw umin oti paj o orgizomenoj tw adelfw autou enocoj estai th krisei oj d an eiph tw adelfw autou raka enocoj estai tw sunedriw oj d an eiph mwre enocoj estai eij thn geennan tou puroj [[to read need to change to font BWGRKL available on site below.]]

I know that a decade ago there were numerous transcode programs out there that would change into unicode. I don't have any experience, but https://greektranscoder.org/ looks like it would do the job and is kept up to date to work with modern software and computers.

It still would be a chore, but it does look manageable.

EastTN

MJ, this is dated, but might the Brooke McLean edition be a plausible source? Of course, it's just the OT, so it only gets us half way there.

Matt Hamrick

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SineNomine

When do we get Codex Vaticanus into Logos

As soon as possible?