Academic citations

Hello,
is there any possibility to find an identity between logos and printed version of books for creating the academic citations except the bibliographical citation of the whole book – I mean the pages?
Because in academic works it is needed to write the citation of the real book.
Thank you.

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Graham Criddle

Hi Jiří - and welcome to the forums

is there any possibility to find an identity between logos and printed version of books for creating the academic citations except the bibliographical citation of the whole book – I mean the pages?
Because in academic works it is needed to write the citation of the real book.

In general I have found that it matches - with page numbers being preserved in the digital texts.

Can you provide more details on what you are wanting to achieve and what you are seeing?

Thanks, Graham

Jiří Brtník

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1029963#Comment_1029963

Dear Graham,
thank you.
Maybe I have an older version of the printed book, so do you think that it should match?
So then it is needed to cite the last print version.
Jiri

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1029973#Comment_1029973

It will cite the version you have in your Logos library.

Sorry, I’m still not understanding the problem. Can you give a specific example please?

Jiří Brtník

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1030012#Comment_1030012

In the theses in our country I have to cite the book the theologians can read or check, and mostly they have no Logos, so I should cite a printed version of the book, (so to write also the ISBN of the book).
For example :

Willis, John R. (ed.). The Teachings of the Church Fathers.

I have already cited this book, printed in 1970, but it’s pages doesn’t match with the Logos version.
So maybe it is needed to cite the new printed version from 2002 (ISBN 0-89870-893-1).
But still, I am not sure, because it has officially 496 pages, but the Logos edition has 487 pages.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1030092#Comment_1030092

In the theses in our country I have to cite the book the theologians can read or check, and mostly they have no Logos, so I should cite a printed version of the book, (so to write also the ISBN of the book).

Understood

Willis, John R. (ed.). The Teachings of the Church Fathers.

I have already cited this book, printed in 1970, but it’s pages doesn’t match with the Logos version.
So maybe it is needed to cite the new printed version from 2002 (ISBN 0-89870-893-1).

Yes - as you note the Logos version is the 2002 edition so that is the one you would need to reference.

But still, I am not sure, because it has officially 496 pages, but the Logos edition has 487 pages.

I don't have an answer to that. Do you have a print copy that you can compare a few pages with the Logos one to see where the difference occurs?

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1030092#Comment_1030092

I have already cited this book, printed in 1970, but it’s pages doesn’t match with the Logos version.

If a Logos edition has page numbers, it will use the same page numbers as the printed edition.

The front matter of the Logos version says the original edition was copyrighted in 1966, and the new edition was copyrighted in 2002. It would therefore expect the page numbers to differ between the two versions (both in print, and in Logos).

There are various ways to specify that you are using a later edition. You'll need to look at what your style guide requires. Here are three possible options:

Willis, John R., ed. The Teachings of the Church Fathers. San Francisco: Ignatius Press, [1966] 2002.
Willis, John R., ed. The Teachings of the Church Fathers. San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 2002^{new ed.}.
Willis, John R., ed. The Teachings of the Church Fathers. new ed. San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 2002.

You should also ensure that all the references are to the same edition of the work, unless there's a good reason not to. I would suggest using the latest edition.

But still, I am not sure, because it has officially 496 pages, but the Logos edition has 487 pages.

This is very common. For some reason, Logos never uses page numbers in indexes at the back of the book, which is why it appears slightly shorter.

Jiří Brtník

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1030101#Comment_1030101

Thank you, both! It is what I wanted to hear.
God Bless