Free Grace Theology

Is it possible to have a Free Grace/Dispensationalism package? In my opinion, there are enough books based on the topic in logos that it could substainly hold its own package category.Furthermore, it would become very useful to Free Grace colleges and seminaries. Does anyone else feel the same?

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Jacob P. Heaton

I would purchase this package the instant it became available!

Paul Caneparo

Can we have it at no cost and without conditions?!

I jest of course.

David R. Block

Raises hand!!

Mike Tourangeau

[:P]

Count me in, unless it cost me of course.

David Paul

Can we have it at no cost and without conditions?!

I jest of course.

LOL

Jerry Smith

I'd go for such a package.

SineNomine

What should it include?

Jacob P. Heaton

At the very least it should include Chafer’s Systematic Theology. Then maybe consider “Freely By His Grace” (various authors).

Michael

Here is some of the FG material already on Logos.

A Free Grace Primer
by Hodges, Zane C.
Grace Evangelical Society |2011

Free Grace Soteriology, rev. ed.
by Anderson, David R.
Grace Theology Press |2012

Mobile Ed: TH265 Free Grace Theology (12 hour course)
by Wilkin, Robert N., Logos Mobile Education
Lexham Press |2017–2018

Confident in Christ: Living by Faith Really Works
by Wilkin, Robert N.
Grace Evangelical Society |1999

The Road to Reward: Living Today in the Light of Tomorrow
by Wilkin, Robert N.
Grace Evangelical Society |2003

Romans: Deliverance from Wrath
by Hodges, Zane C.
Grace Evangelical Society |2013

Maximum Joy: 1 John—Relationship or Fellowship?
by Anderson, David R.
Grace Theology Press |2013

Would love to see great authors like Grant Hawley,Shawn Lazar,Jody Dillow and Lucas Kitchen.

Austin Decker

I too would purchase such a package, and I would have friends who would get it too. I'd especially like Logos to add in Jody Dillow's 4th edition to Final Destiny to Logos.

Graham Criddle

I'd especially like Logos to add in Jody Dillow's 4th edition to Final Destiny to Logos.

This is available on the Faithlife ebooks site at https://ebooks.faithlife.com/products/167868/final-destiny-the-future-reign-of-the-servant-kings-4th-edition

(I wasn't sure if you were referring to its availability or suggesting inclusion in a package but thought it worth pointing out it was available)

NB.Mick

Here is some of the FG material already on Logos.

I put those and some more into a Reading List:

NB.Mick

I'd especially like Logos to add in Jody Dillow's 4th edition to Final Destiny to Logos.

This is available on the Faithlife ebooks site at https://ebooks.faithlife.com/products/167868/final-destiny-the-future-reign-of-the-servant-kings-4th-edition

ooops, I even own this one and had overlooked that! List updated. Should all the books published by Grace Theology Press on ebooks.faithlife.com be put onto the reading list?

Michael

Oh interesting I didn’t know you could do that!

Dave Neff

I would be interested in such a package!

Daniel Radke

In addition to what's been mentioned, these two resources would belong well in a Free Grace Theology base package:

The first one above was a part of a base package at some point.

JohnB

Sorry if this is slightly of topic, but can any one suggest the best 2 or 3 books that clearly describe what Free Grace is and isn't (not from a critical viewpoint unless a Free Grace proponent can recommend it!).

Austin Decker

Sorry if this is slightly of topic, but can any one suggest the best 2 or 3 books that clearly describe what Free Grace is and isn't (not from a critical viewpoint unless a Free Grace proponent can recommend it!).

1. Final Destiny 4th editon by Dr. Jospeh Dillow (This is the best in my opinion)

2. A Free Grace Primer by Zane Hodges (former prof at DTS)

3. Free Grace Soteriology by Dr Dave Anderson (President of ATS accredited Grace School of Theology)

4. So Great Salvation by Dr. Charles Ryrie (Simple, clear, and short - not the best though)

Paul L. White

I think one of the challenges, for Faithlife Corp., would be to assign someone to oversee the selection, and make sure the volumes included qualify as "Free Grace." Since this is a relatively new movement, there is a danger of causing dissension over which books ought to be included, and which ones ought to be excluded.

Normally, and traditionally, "packages" have included some basic and cornerstone publications: Bibles, commentaries, lexicons, etc.

I think a good technical term to use here might be a "Series." Or "Collection." That would be easier in the doing, and wouldn't involve as many within the Logos staffing.

But the issue remains: who will be the final authority as to what gets included or excluded?

This is a phenomenal idea, and I think Logos wouldn't mind considering it...as long as we get our ducks in a row. They can't afford any legal quagmires, or fierce criticisms. After all, it is a business, and depends upon a high percentage of happy customers to exist.

Blessings.

John Brumett

I created a Free Grace Bibliography from the books I own.

I believe you can click on the link to make it available in your library.

https://fl.vu/a6SHy

If I can figure out how to share my collection I will make it available. I can't find how to do that in my docs.

Michael

For some reason it says I cannot see it at this time.

Michael

I think one of the challenges, for Faithlife Corp., would be to assign someone to oversee the selection, and make sure the volumes included qualify as "Free Grace." Since this is a relatively new movement, there is a danger of causing dissension over which books ought to be included, and which ones ought to be excluded.

Normally, and traditionally, "packages" have included some basic and cornerstone publications: Bibles, commentaries, lexicons, etc.

I think a good technical term to use here might be a "Series." Or "Collection." That would be easier in the doing, and wouldn't involve as many within the Logos staffing.

But the issue remains: who will be the final authority as to what gets included or excluded?

This is a phenomenal idea, and I think Logos wouldn't mind considering it...as long as we get our ducks in a row. They can't afford any legal quagmires, or fierce criticisms. After all, it is a business, and depends upon a high percentage of happy customers to exist.

Blessings.

I’m sure they can talk to Grace School of Theology in order to come up with a recommended book system

Michael

I think one of the challenges, for Faithlife Corp., would be to assign someone to oversee the selection, and make sure the volumes included qualify as "Free Grace." Since this is a relatively new movement, there is a danger of causing dissension over which books ought to be included, and which ones ought to be excluded.

Normally, and traditionally, "packages" have included some basic and cornerstone publications: Bibles, commentaries, lexicons, etc.

I think a good technical term to use here might be a "Series." Or "Collection." That would be easier in the doing, and wouldn't involve as many within the Logos staffing.

But the issue remains: who will be the final authority as to what gets included or excluded?

This is a phenomenal idea, and I think Logos wouldn't mind considering it...as long as we get our ducks in a row. They can't afford any legal quagmires, or fierce criticisms. After all, it is a business, and depends upon a high percentage of happy customers to exist.

Blessings.

I’m sure they can talk to Grace School of Theology in order to come up with a recommended book system

Paul L. White

John,

When I try to get it, and click on "Details," it says your file(s) are listed as "private." Can you find a way to change the listing to "public?" Thank you so much.

Paul

Paul L. White

Thanks, Coty, that's a good idea!

Paul

NB.Mick

Is it possible to have a Free Grace/Dispensationalism package? In my opinion, there are enough books based on the topic in logos that it could substainly hold its own package category.Furthermore, it would become very useful to Free Grace colleges and seminaries. Does anyone else feel the same?

prior to creating a base package or base package flavor line, Logos typically offers a "library builder" package that bundles a lot of the books relevant to the respective group. Maybe if you post a cross-post under the "Suggestions" subforum, this will catch the eyes of the people responsible for such products.

Michael

John,

When I try to get it, and click on "Details," it says your file(s) are listed as "private." Can you find a way to change the listing to "public?" Thank you so much.

Paul

Michael

Is it possible to have a Free Grace/Dispensationalism package? In my opinion, there are enough books based on the topic in logos that it could substainly hold its own package category.Furthermore, it would become very useful to Free Grace colleges and seminaries. Does anyone else feel the same?

prior to creating a base package or base package flavor line, Logos typically offers a "library builder" package that bundles a lot of the books relevant to the respective group. Maybe if you post a cross-post under the "Suggestions" subforum, this will catch the eyes of the people responsible for such products.

Interesting, thank you for this information.

John Brumett

John,

When I try to get it, and click on "Details," it says your file(s) are listed as "private." Can you find a way to change the listing to "public?" Thank you so much.

Paul

It should now be available in your public documents under Free Grace Bibliography and the Collection should be Grace. You can then just add them to your Docs.

Michael

Here is some of the FG material already on Logos.

I put those and some more into a Reading List:

I tried to add Tom Constable's Expository Bible Study Notes| Constable, Tom. but it would not let me.

Tom Constable's Expository Bible Study Notes

by Constable, Tom

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Galaxie Software 2003

Dennis Davis

Incredibly timely thread since I'm working through a teaching on this topic w/ my church right now. My question is, do any of the above resources list the main scriptures used to argue against free grace and counter-arguments all in on place (versus searching book by book as in the Grace NTC)?

Dennis Davis

Thanks for the link, Graham.

Susan W. Murphy

I'm not familiar with "Free Grace." Is this once saved, always saved doctrine?

Thanks.
Susan Murphy

Paul Caneparo

I'm not familiar with "Free Grace." Is this once saved, always saved doctrine?

Thanks.
Susan Murphy

I would say "a variant of". But you can believe in "once saved, always saved" without being necessarily in the "free grace" camp.

David Thomas

I'm not familiar with "Free Grace." Is this once saved, always saved doctrine?

Others may be able to refine my understanding, but I think of "Free Grace" (Hodges) and "Lordship Salvation" (MacArthur) as ends of a continuum. It depends upon one's understanding of repentance. At one end a person is justified purely as a free gift of God by simple faith (what some may call "easy believeism"). At the other end of the continuum is a person who is justified by God's grace in response to personal faith and repentance. At the "Free Grace" end is the idea that an infant plays no role in his/her birth. At the Lordship end is the idea that "If Jesus isn't Lord of all, then He isn't Lord at all." Both would agree that Biblical Repentance is a gracious gift that comes from God, but the disagreement comes in how repentance manifests itself.

I hope this is helpful and mean no disrespect to my brothers and sisters who disagree with my summary of the issue.

Paul L. White

Miss Susan,

The simplest way I know to describe "Free Grace" is the saying: "faith alone in Christ alone."

In other words, "not of works lest any man [person] should boast."

As opposed to, as mentioned above, "if He's not Lord of all, He's not Lord at all." In other words, God saved us, and all we have to do is believe it, and it is ours. Receive it. Grace is Free.

Some of the people in this Forum belong to a Free Grace group on Facebook. If you're interested, please let us know, and we'll give you the exact name of the group so you can apply for membership.

The only caveat is that it is presumed you believe in a "no works" Salvation.

Paul L White

Logos User since version 1.6

Susan W. Murphy

I'm not familiar with "Free Grace." Is this once saved, always saved doctrine?

Thanks.
Susan Murphy

I would say "a variant of". But you can believe in "once saved, always saved" without being necessarily in the "free grace" camp.

Thanks for the reply. This terminology is new to me even though I've been a Christian years.
Susan Murphy

Susan W. Murphy

David,

This is very helpful.
Thanks.
Susan Murphy

Susan W. Murphy

Dear Mr. White,

Thanks for the info. This is very helpful.
Susan Murphy

Paul Caneparo

I'm not familiar with "Free Grace." Is this once saved, always saved doctrine?

Thanks.
Susan Murphy

I would say "a variant of". But you can believe in "once saved, always saved" without being necessarily in the "free grace" camp.

Thanks for the reply. This terminology is new to me even though I've been a Christian years.
Susan Murphy

RT Kendall's book "Once Saved, Always Saved" is a great presentation of the variant I preach. Grace is indeed free, but there is still a cost associated with unfaithfulness. Unfortunately Faithlife don't currently list this book, but I'd recommend it very much.