FIX the context-menu lemma search!
I'm sorry but after all this time, it's hard to believe that one can still invoke the context menu from a word in a Bible and run the lemma search "in this resource" from the context menu, only to get no results because the generated search is not in the correct morphology!
I have mentioned this before and I still hold that this is simply not user friendly at all.
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Using the NASB95 (not the paragraph version). Try runinng a lemma search "in this resource" from the context menu.
Result:
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The same problem applies when selecting the lemma from the Bible search (tried the NASB, NASB+, and NIV84 so far).
Step 1: type g:kosmos in the box and select the lemma proposed in the drop list:
Result:
Contrast with results obtained with the same procedure on the ESV.
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Francis said:
Using the NASB95 (not the paragraph version). Try runinng a lemma search "in this resource" from the context menu.
Interesting. I've had this error before too. I just figured I was doing something wrong.
I tried it out, and here's what it did for me:
1. Went to Gen. 1.1 in the ESV, did a lemma search on eretz from the context menu. No hits came up.
2. John 3.16 in ESV, kosmos: worked fine.
3. John 3.16 & Gen 1.1 in NASB95 (not para): worked fine.
4. Back to eretz in Gen. 1.1 in the ESV: this time it worked.
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Hi Francis
I've tried the different examples you give (NASB95 and NIV84) and the searches work fine for me - something strange is going on!
It's not a morphology issue as the search screens you show have the correct encoding.
Graham
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Francis said:
The same problem applies when selecting the lemma from the Bible search (tried the NASB, NASB+, and NIV84 so far).
Step 1: type g:kosmos in the box and select the lemma proposed in the drop list:
Result:
Contrast with results obtained with the same procedure on the ESV.
Francis,
I don't have an answer for your dilemma, but what I do have is a question that may get to the bottom of it. How do you get that pop-up with 185 in the wheel to appear? I am unable to duplicate this and it may hold the key to what's going on in your case.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.2 1TB SSD
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Beloved said:
How do you get that pop-up with 185 in the wheel to appear? I am unable to duplicate this and it may hold the key to what's going on in your case.
That's normal when selecting (hovering) over the suggested lemma
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Francis said:
The same problem applies when selecting the lemma from the Bible search (tried the NASB, NASB+, and NIV84 so far).
Do you get any search results from these bibles e.g. Bible Search for "God"? Basic Search for "God"
If "No", try reindex NASB95 in the Go/Command box. If you quickly type/paste reindex niv84 after that, they should be indexed together.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
That's normal when selecting (hovering) over the suggested lemma
I searched high and low and can find this selection nowhere. Where is it? Edit: I already have hover set on Corresponding words same lemma.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.2 1TB SSD
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After you type g:kosmos in Bible Search, two suggestions appear below it. Hover over the first suggestion to get the tool tip with the 185.
There is no Setting for this.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
After you type g:kosmos in Bible Search, two suggestions appear below it. Hover over the first suggestion to get the tool tip with the 185.
There is no Setting for this.
It must not hold for MacOS.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.2 1TB SSD
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Beloved said:Dave Hooton said:
After you type g:kosmos in Bible Search, two suggestions appear below it. Hover over the first suggestion to get the tool tip with the 185.
There is no Setting for this.
It must not hold for MacOS.
Replicated lack of 185 tool tip hover using Logos 8.6 Beta 1 on macOS 10.14.5
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Well, well, well: try my search above but make sure you do any search that works first with results aligned. Leave it to aligned, then run the lemma search.
I found that it works if the search was left on "verses" but it does not on "aligned".
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Francis said:
Using the NASB95 (not the paragraph version). Try runinng a lemma search "in this resource" from the context menu.
Result:
I'm wondering if your installation may need to rebuild the index for NASB. I followed your steps 1,2,3 and got the expected results:
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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Will rebuild the index and see what happens. Sigh...
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Rebuilt index. Seems to have solved the problem.
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Good.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Beloved said:Francis said:
The same problem applies when selecting the lemma from the Bible search (tried the NASB, NASB+, and NIV84 so far).
Step 1: type g:kosmos in the box and select the lemma proposed in the drop list:
Result:
Contrast with results obtained with the same procedure on the ESV.
Francis,
I don't have an answer for your dilemma, but what I do have is a question that may get to the bottom of it. How do you get that pop-up with 185 in the wheel to appear? I am unable to duplicate this and it may hold the key to what's going on in your case.
I've filed a bug report for the missing pop-up on macOS. Thanks for reporting this.
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