Bug: Bookstore search active when section is collapsed

In All Resources, and Everything, the Bookstore search is active when the section is collapsed.

Can we have consistency as Bookstore states No Results whilst Books.Logos.Com states 0 results

Dave
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Windows 11 & Android 13

Comments

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,471

    This is not unusual behavior. Try an Everything search, and collapse all the sections, and you'll see that most of the search sections behave this way.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,114

    In All Resources it is the only online section that behaves this way. The Cloud search does not! And it can take 20s or so when I do not desire to have or see its results. Everything is a more suitable place for this section, anyway.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,471

    In the "All Resources" search, "Your Personal Books" and "Library (Downloaded" both behave this way.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Reuben Helmuth
    Reuben Helmuth MVP Posts: 2,485

    In the "All Resources" search, "Your Personal Books" and "Library (Downloaded" both behave this way.

    So those should be fixed as well! Have collapsed sections not run should be consistent throughout the application and is one small way of optimizing performance. A section that uses the internet, however, is far more serious for some of us and I strongly support not running the search if collapsed.

  • PetahChristian
    PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭

    Morris Proctor teaches, "What’s more, if a guide opens with a section collapsed, the search in that section is delayed until you expand the section." (Bold not mine, but from original.)

    Searches shouldn't run if a section is collapsed (even if they've typically been running in the past).

    Let's please fix that, instead of writing it off as normal (historical) behavior for certain searches.

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,114

    In the "All Resources" search, "Your Personal Books" and "Library (Downloaded" both behave this way.

    Andrew

    I can only conclude that this is a fait accompli, both from your lack of consideration and the fact that the feature was introduced in a Release Candidate. It is reasonable, for performance reasons, that a collapsed section should not be active; especially when there is no way to include/exclude it. It is also reasonable to suggest that it is best suited to the Everything category, along with similar sections like books.logos.com, because my All Resources is now transformed into All Faithlife Resources.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭

    The results for our library is typically the reason we run a search. IMO, It should be populated whether expanded or not. The primary results of any feature should be populated whether the section is expanded or not. Otherwise, by default, any section that causes high cpu/bandwidth usage should be delayed until expanded. By Default.

    ...But it would be nice if there were a user controlled option to allow low-priority background processing of collapsed sections. If it doesn't slow me down, get in my way, or use bandwidth needed for other active tasks, I'd love to have the contents already available when I open them. But that's a nice to have. But without that option, I completely agree that the default should be to delay populating until expanded for non-primary sections.

  • Reuben Helmuth
    Reuben Helmuth MVP Posts: 2,485

    "FaithLife Sermons" in a Basic>Everything search is another section that acts like a rebellious teenager (the only way to keep it home is to take away the keys (Wifi)🤪).🤨 I really wish we'd have the ability to remove, or at least disable certain sections.