Is there a reason "sanctify" - all word forms, does not get sanctification?
"Match all word forms" is powered by an algorithm (not a dictionary), so sometimes it "understems" and doesn't group words that you think should have the same root.
See my previous posts for more information: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/87708/615401.aspx#615401 https://community.logos.com/forums/p/61695/437957.aspx#437957
Is sanctif considered a stem?
In its own right, it is not a word, so use it in a Search with "Match all word forms"!
Is sanctif considered a stem? In its own right, it is not a word, so use it in a Search with "Match all word forms"!
Dave,
As you can see from my advice to the OP that I was aware of this fact, but what I'm trying to understand is why/how it works in light of Bradley's post. I don't understand this algorithm factor. How are we to determine what word or stem will work for our searches; trial and error?
Sanctify will only give you forms with the "y" like sanctifying.
This isn't true. It will match: sanctify, sanctifying, sanctifies, sanctified, sanctifier (and possibly more).
How are we to determine what word or stem will work for our searches; trial and error?
It's probably more helpful to think in terms of "groups" of words, not "stems". Here are some groups of words determined by the current algorithm. With "Match all word forms" on, searching for one of the words in any group will find matches for all other words in that group (but won't find words from other groups).
In some cases you can forcibly override these groupings in a helpful way, e.g., by searching for "sanctif*" which finds words from the first three groups, which all happen to be related. But "sanct*" would probably be an unhelpful search because it would find a lot of words that aren't related.
Sanctify will only give you forms with the "y" like sanctifying. This isn't true. It will match: sanctify, sanctifying, sanctifies, sanctified, sanctifier (and possibly more).
How are we to determine what word or stem will work for our searches; trial and error? It's probably more helpful to think in terms of "groups" of words, not "stems". Here are some groups of words determined by the current algorithm. With "Match all word forms" on, searching for one of the words in any group will find matches for all other words in that group (but won't find words from other groups). sanctification sanctify, sanctifies, sanctified, sanctifying sanctifieth sanction, sanctions, sanctioned sanctity sanctuary, sanctuaries, sanctuary's In some cases you can forcibly override these groupings in a helpful way, e.g., by searching for "sanctif*" which finds words from the first three groups, which all happen to be related. But "sanct*" would probably be an unhelpful search because it would find a lot of words that aren't related.
Thanx much to all who took the time to help.
The answer to your question involves trial and error. But I usually use the word I'm interested in, rather than guessing a 'stem' form. On occasion, you have to use the wildcard * for a satisfactory result.
