Search for Verses that start with the same first letter

Bob Diebel
Bob Diebel Member Posts: 388
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is there a search for Verses that start with the same first letter?

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  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭

    There is no way to filter the first letter of a word or verse. I will admit I am curious about why you would want to conduct such a search? What would the significance of that search be?

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,868

    In short, No!

    There isn't a way to specify "words with the same first letter" at the start of a verse.

    I tried a Synatx Search for "Same Gloss at the start of a Sentence" in the book of Mark and Logos crashed each time, Because every sentence has to be compared with ALL other sentences in the book, results are time consuming and data intensive, and didn't specify the location of the matching sentences e.g. the matching sentence was shown under Mark 1:1, but it came from Mk 13:8.

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  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭

    Bob Diebel said:

    Is there a search for Verses that start with the same first letter?

    I don't think so.

    Are you thinking of verses in the original languages, or in translation? Any particular verse division scheme (given that they change to some extent by version)?

    What is your ultimate goal? The versification of Scripture is an editorial addition (or, rather, many additions), so I'm interested in understanding the value that a search that meets your criteria would have.

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,409

    Here's the way I did it:

    1. Turn on the Bible-text only visual filter with one verse per line:
    2. Use Print/Export from the panel menu (the three vertical dots in the upper right corner of the panel.
    3. Select the desired range of text
    4. Choose "Copy to clipboard"
    5. Paste the text in a spreadsheet
    6. Sort the column with the text.
    7. Scroll to the desired part of the alphabet and find the desired verses.

    This does leave some verses that start with punctuation like quotes or parenthesis. You could probably first paste the text in a text editor and use search and replace to remove all instances of those, then copy/paste to the spreadsheet.

    This also has the problem that it doesn't give the verse reference. An alternative that will only work with smaller blocks of text (I was able to do this on up to four chapters), do the following:

    1. Open the Copy Bible Verses tool
    2. Click on the hyperlink at the top that indicates the style being used and select the Create a new style option.
    3. Use the following formatting:
      %NoCharFormatting
      %NoRedLetter
      %NoFootnotes
      %NoCitation

      =ForEachVerse
      <p>[VerseText] [FullVerseRef]</p>
    4. Click the Save button
    5. Enter your desired reference in the box
    6. Click the Copy button
    7. Use the steps above to get the results in a spreadsheet.

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  • Bob Diebel
    Bob Diebel Member Posts: 388
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068232#Comment_1068232

    The plan some in our fellowship are using in our Craft_night with children is to go through the alphabet in the gospel messages. I do the Sword Drill, and was investigating following suit.

    Thanx to all who responded.

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