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Bradley - can you step in re:Migne? SUGGESTION: Books ripped apart by FL (or published in multiple p

MJ. Smith

I know this is not high priority but on multipart resources i.e. a single volume in print but multiple parts in Logos, I really wish:

that when I had one part open there was easy access to the other parts analogous to parallel resources ... searches usually take me off to a specialized part not the English core.
that they would display as an expandable single line in the library

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Simon’s Brother

Not sure if you are saying you don’t want the Syriac but instead want the English Text. If that is so could you not add a constraint to the search to return only English language resources?

If I’ve misunderstood what you are trying to illustrate apologies. Either way i think the bigger picture of multi-part resources could have better ways of library management to tie them together.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068216#Comment_1068216

Not sure if you are saying you don’t want the Syriac but instead want the English Text. If that is so could you not add a constraint to the search to return only English language resources?

What I want is that when the Syriac portion of the book is returned, that I can move from it to the English portion quickly. The Syriac has the actual text (which I don't read) while the corresponding English portion has the notes (which I do read). I fake this with parallel resource collections for resources that come up frequently. But to speed up startup time, I need to limit collections.

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068217#Comment_1068217

I fake this with parallel resource collections for resources that come up frequently. But to speed up startup time, I need to limit collections.

Are you asking that all such resources be coded as parallel resources by FL?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068230#Comment_1068230

Are you asking that all such resources be coded as parallel resources by FL?

Or perhaps they have a more effective way of achieving the same result.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

The resources come in a series (The Epistles of St. Clement to the Corinthians in Syriac), so you can add them to multiple resources display with one click (by selecting that prebuilt series).

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068217#Comment_1068217

Ok that makes sense. Thank you for further explaining, I can identify with that. Bradley’s solution I think helps with the immediate issue but will leave that to you to see if it works for you.

Not sure if you are saying you don’t want the Syriac but instead want the English Text. If that is so could you not add a constraint to the search to return only English language resources?

What I want is that when the Syriac portion of the book is returned, that I can move from it to the English portion quickly. The Syriac has the actual text (which I don't read) while the corresponding English portion has the notes (which I do read). I fake this with parallel resource collections for resources that come up frequently. But to speed up startup time, I need to limit collections.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068298#Comment_1068298

so you can add them to multiple resources display with one click (by selecting that prebuilt series).

Thanks, this is good to know for some references. Unfortunately, I can not get the multiple resources to work for Migne using Migne, J. P. Patrologia Graeca: Latin Text. Vol. IV. Patrologiæ Cursus Completus. Paris: J. P. Migne, 1857. at Ps-Dionys., Myst. 1.1 If I create my own collection it will work. Multiple resources did work for The Epistles of St. Clement to the Corinthians in Syriac.

However, I wanted to add them was in parallel resources where with a click I can toggle between them. Multiple resources requires additional screen space/clutter. I find multiple resources very useful when I want to glance back and forth between resources e.g. a study Bible and its primary Bible translation. Multiple resources becomes more space intensive on common resources such as Migne where 3 resources are involved. And I think I have a resource that has 4 parts.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068320#Comment_1068320

I think helps with the immediate issue but will leave that to you to see if it works for you.

It works for the one resource mentioned and for some similar cases; I cannot get it to work for Migne where each volume comes in 3 parts. Can you?

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068327#Comment_1068327

I think helps with the immediate issue but will leave that to you to see if it works for you.

It works for the one resource mentioned and for some similar cases; I cannot get it to work for Migne where each volume comes in 3 parts. Can you?

MJ i could not get it to work with Migne either.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068355#Comment_1068355

I think helps with the immediate issue but will leave that to you to see if it works for you.

It works for the one resource mentioned and for some similar cases; I cannot get it to work for Migne where each volume comes in 3 parts. Can you?

MJ i could not get it to work with Migne either.

The problem with threads like these, is that they use actual examples. Then it's downhill. "Wow ... I didn't know Logos had THAT!". So, you type in the series name in the itty-bitty Logos.com search box, and it displays this and that collection. But not the example in the thread. So, one by one, you try to find individual volumes. Hard work.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068398#Comment_1068398

The problem with threads like these, is that they use actual examples.

Its a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. If one doesn't provide an example, at best one gets a request for one. If one does provide an example it's taken as the only case - or of a rare need. And despite either (a) inaccurate search results or (b) inability to find actual source for context, there is always the "feature expansion" response, as if having the functions work was an unrealistic expectation. Sometimes I feel like Faithlife doesn't realize how powerful their system is and what small changes and additions would turn it into a scholar's dream (and make Noet actually takeoff).

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

I know this is not high priority but on multipart resources i.e. a single volume in print but multiple parts in Logos, I really wish:

that when I had one part open there was easy access to the other parts analogous to parallel resources ... searches usually take me off to a specialized part not the English core.

that they would display as an expandable single line in the library

Just wanted to note that we are tracking your original suggestion (and that the workaround I gave wasn't intended as the ultimate solution for the problems you raised).

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1068427#Comment_1068427

Thanks Bradley ... I'll give you time to work it out. The deeper I get into it, the thornier the problem looks.