Logos startup sound -- keep it, change it, kill it?
Do you like having a startup sound in Logos Bible Software? Is it enough that you can turn it off in preferences, or should we just get rid of it? Or do you like it?
In the next version, should we go to the trouble to create a new sound? Can a little audio logo, or bumper music, get you into the mood to start your study, or is it just a distraction?
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
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The sound doesn't do much for me, it just tells me that it's starting up the software ( and lets me know if I have the volume turned on too loud), although it has over the years had a definitive Logos catch to it. If it was me, I'd give the user the option to turn it off, no matter what other sounds you might give folks.
Blessings,
Ralph
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Give three or four choices and make it possible to use my own WAV or MP3 file. Also, do not lose the ability to turn the sound completely off.
Thanks for asking.
Yours because His,
Floyd
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Kill it. It's one of the first things I turn off when I install Logos. Not as bad as the Windows Start Navigation sound, but one of those things that always makes me wonder, "Why do they keep that in there?"
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I'm in the have the ability to turn it off camp, especially if it would save start-up time. I personally wouldn't mind losing it to start-up quicker but if others wanted to hear it, a check box option would make both parties happy.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Floyd Johnson said:
Give three or four choices and make it possible to use my own WAV or MP3 file.
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Turning it off is always one of the first things I do after a Libronix install. Inevitably, I end up working on my computer either late at night or early in the morning while everyone else in the house is asleep. The last thing I need is any kind of sound emanating from my computer! I use Libronix for Bible study, not for producing sounds. If I want to play music, I'll use an application that's designed for that purpose.
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George Gunn
Shasta Bible College
www.shasta.edu
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Bob,
I like the new sound you have at the end of your videos... the blip, blip, blip as the letters of the word Logos are flipped... if that was available I'd use it as my startup sound. I used to use the startup sound, but after many years of use, I've since stopped doing so. I don't know why I like the little blip sound, I guess, short sweet and to the point, whenever I hear it I think of the Logos letters, and thus Logos! That's my two cents!
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Bob Pritchett said:
Do you like having a startup sound in Logos Bible Software? Is it enough that you can turn it off in preferences, or should we just get rid of it? Or do you like it?
In the next version, should we go to the trouble to create a new sound? Can a little audio logo, or bumper music, get you into the mood to start your study, or is it just a distraction?
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
I always turn the sound off because it comes on much louder than any other sounds I may have been playing so that it almost makes me jump out of my chair. I would favor being able to customize the sound and even turn it off entirely. It should only affect the startup sound, however, and not any other sounds which might be generated from the program. Customization by using one's own wav files or mp3s might be desirable for some. It probably wouldn't do much for me since I prefer classical music to other types. If it's going to interrupt my music, it had better be short.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Put me down for "don't care". I've had the sound turned off since I first installed the package.
It's not that I have anything against your greeting. I just don't like computer noise. I have all of my sounds turned off except my e-mail alert.
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Its annoying and one of the first things I turn off. At the least make it default ot off and let poeple turn it on. If I forget to do this and am working in a quiet place the first time I load it, I get a lot of rude looks. "Sorry, just studying my bible!" Great witness. I know, could go the other way.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Bob Pritchett said:
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
I'm the odd one out. I think it's kind of cool and adds to the distinctiveness of Logos on your computer. Having the ability to switch it off is a bonus as well.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:Bob Pritchett said:
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
I'm the odd one out. I think it's kind of cool and adds to the distinctiveness of Logos on your computer. Having the ability to switch it off is a bonus as well.
Bob, Peace to you! I reallly like it also... Sets me in a good mood ... Often prompts a big smile ..... Makes me "ready to get at it"! Make it 'turn-offable' for others, if you will, but I have appreciated it for years .... *smile*
... Mel
Milford Charles Murray
Whitby, Ontario, Canada
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
Its annoying and one of the first things I turn off. At the least make it default ot off and let poeple turn it on. If I forget to do this and am working in a quiet place the first time I load it, I get a lot of rude looks. "Sorry, just studying my bible!" Great witness. I know, could go the other way.
I agree 100%. It is the first thing I look were to switch it off, not only in Logos but in any application. I use Logos all the time, early morning, late evening, at the devotion meeting with pastors, all kind of board meetings, and I need to be sure I can start my Logos without sounding the trumpet about it. If there are people who use it, keep it. If it would help to make Logos start faster, kill it. Just make sure there is an option in the new version to switch it off in case you keep it, without switching off all the other sounds of the program, like Greek pronunciation etc. (I think George mentioned it already).
Well, if you are working on the intro sounds already, it must mean version 4 is really close [:)]
Bohuslav
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I don't mind the startup sound, though keeping the option to turn it off would be nice. Other sounds could be nice as well. I'm one of the Logos fanatics that downloaded the ringtone (it drives my wife crazy because she thinks my phone is ringing when Logos starts on the computer [;)]).
As to whether or not to keep it, I would say that it would be a noticeably missed part of the Logos system, even for those who turn it off when they install it (we are creatures of habit, and if we install it again and go to turn it off and it's not there, what would we do?) Just my two cents.
Blessings!
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Bob Pritchett said:
Do you like having a startup sound in Logos Bible Software? Is it enough that you can turn it off in preferences, or should we just get rid of it? Or do you like it?
In the next version, should we go to the trouble to create a new sound? Can a little audio logo, or bumper music, get you into the mood to start your study, or is it just a distraction?
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
Bob
I don't care what you do with the sound, as long as we retain the ability to turn it off! Like many others, that is the first thing I do after installation. I wold appreciate it if you would add this capability to the Mac version.
Jack
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Same here, Bob. Whatever you do with sound, I'm going to turn it off. That's essential in an office environment.
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I will always turn it off, but I don't mind you keeping it for others as long as the option to shut it off is available.
John Fidel
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Startup sound is nice, but the one complaint I have about the current one is that it is too long! Make it a bit shorter, keep the option to turn it off and include the option to add your own sound would be great.
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
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I have it as my ringtone on my phone.
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Aaron said:
I'm one of the Logos fanatics that downloaded the ringtone (it drives my wife crazy because she thinks my phone is ringing when Logos starts on the computer
). And better yet, everytime the phone rings your wife thinks you are being real spiritual. Good job. [;)]
Blessings,
Floyd
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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This is a vote FOR the sound. It is distinctive, and as another posted it "gets me in the mood" for Bible study. I can understand that some find it unneeded. Therefore the current option to turn it off should remain.
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Bob Pritchett said:
Do you like having a startup sound in Logos Bible Software? Is it enough that you can turn it off in preferences, or should we just get rid of it? Or do you like it?
In the next version, should we go to the trouble to create a new sound? Can a little audio logo, or bumper music, get you into the mood to start your study, or is it just a distraction?
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
When I first got a computer that could play sounds, beyond the 'beep' of that little built-in speaker that came with most DOS machines, I thought it was soooo cooooool. After 6 months I turned most of them off. I regularly turn off the Windows start-up/shut-down sounds too, and find it annoying when others leave it on and start up their laptop in a meeting -- right in the middle of some conversation or presentation. Don't these people know how to do something that basic? Isn't this one of the simplest forms of politeness? Can't they...
Sorry, started to get carried away there. [clears throat]
I also turn off the sound as a one of the first things I do when I install Logos. Keep it, update it, can it. I don't care. I'm going to turn it off.
Bob, what you should be focusing on is not long-time users, but first time users. The sound, is (after the display of the logo) the first impression the software makes. Music creates a mood and an emotional ethos like no other media. Whether to do that with a silent intro, or a musical one, is your choice, but choose the music wisely.
If you go with a starup sound, I'd suggest putting the option to use the Logos start-up sound as an option in the initial setup (with an option to hear it there too?). Most scholars and library hounds are going to want it off. Many casual,home-study users will want it on. Not many in these two categories will know how to navigate the menus to turn it off or on, or even suspect it is an option.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Richard DeRuiter said:
When I first got a computer that could play sounds, beyond the 'beep' of that little built-in speaker that came with most DOS machines, I thought it was soooo cooooool. After 6 months I turned most of them off. I regularly turn off the Windows start-up/shut-down sounds too, and find it annoying when others leave it on and start up their laptop in a meeting -- right in the middle of some conversation or presentation. Don't these people know how to do something that basic? Isn't this one of the simplest forms of politeness? Can't they...
Aaah! You take me back to the good old DOS days. I remember that I had gotten a disk with a lot of utilities from PC Mag which included one to play tunes using the computer speaker. One winter's day I sat there fiddling with it to get it to play various Christmas carols -- "The snow lay on the ground ...", "Good King Wenceslaus looked out ... (OK, not strictly Christmas), etc.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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I usually could live without startup sounds but I do like it for the Logos Bible Software. I'm not sure why but I suspect it's a spiritual thing for me. I would miss it and I don't preference it off. It would disapoint me to not have it as an option and I would probably put an mp3 to it on my own. Hope this helps.
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JackCaviness said:
Like many others, that is the first thing I do after installation. I wold appreciate it if you would add this capability to the Mac version.
This is already in the Mac version. Go to Preferences and look under Appearance. The first Interface Option. Like the PC version, this is one of the first things I turn off.
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I actually like having the sound, and associate it with being part of the Logos Community (perhaps you think that's strange!). I think it would be a shame to get rid of it when people always have the option of turning it off. You can always turn it off if you like, but once 'killed' you can't turn it on. A choice of sounds would be cool!
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Chris Roberts said:JackCaviness said:
Like many others, that is the first thing I do after installation. I wold appreciate it if you would add this capability to the Mac version.
This is already in the Mac version. Go to Preferences and look under Appearance. The first Interface Option. Like the PC version, this is one of the first things I turn off.
Thank you [Y]. Now, why did I not see that? I'll have to ask George if your eyesight goes out at 39.[:D]
Jack
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JackCaviness said:Chris Roberts said:JackCaviness said:
Like many others, that is the first thing I do after installation. I wold appreciate it if you would add this capability to the Mac version.
This is already in the Mac version. Go to Preferences and look under Appearance. The first Interface Option. Like the PC version, this is one of the first things I turn off.
Thank you
. Now, why did I not see that? I'll have to ask George if your eyesight goes out at 39.
Jack
I wouldn't know about that since I'm not yet 39. [;)] You probably didn't notice it because it seems to be a strange place to put it. Turn of start-up sound under APPEARANCE?
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:JackCaviness said:
Thank you
. Now, why did I not see that? I'll have to ask George if your eyesight goes out at 39.Jack
I wouldn't know about that since I'm not yet 39.
You probably didn't notice it because it seems to be a strange place to put it. Turn of start-up sound under APPEARANCE?My apology George. From your picture, I thought you might be older. [6]. I did think "Appearance" was a strange place to turn off sounds, but then we do not have nearly as many choices as the Windows version has.
Jack
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I like options. It's one of the main reasons I love Logos! The ability to have the sound on or off or to be able to select my own sound would be a nice upgrade! Thanks for all that you do.[I]
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I have it turned off because its soooo very much louder than all the other sounds on my computer and just blasts out. I have no feelings about new or old sounds, but it would be great if it was about 1/2 as loud.
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JohnKaess said:
I have it turned off because its soooo very much louder than all the other sounds on my computer and just blasts out. I have no feelings about new or old sounds, but it would be great if it was about 1/2 as loud.
Why not offer a volume control in the options panel? PC games software always does that. Why shouldn't Logos? It might stop a lot of people from turning the music off altogether.
Bible software without some kind of musical intro doesn't seem right to me for some reason (even though I'm the sort of person who will turn it off regardless of the circumstance). On the other hand you don't want a intro that will blast users out of their seats and cause people who might prefer a musical introduction to turn it off.
I think an option that will allow a user to select his or her own music is probably a good idea as well. Maybe that's a little extreme. Perhaps not worth the design and implementation effort. Still, customization is the spice of life, don't you think?
Yours in Christ
John
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John McComb said:
I think an option that will allow a user to select his or her own music is probably a good idea as well. Maybe that's a little extreme. Perhaps not worth the design and implementation effort. Still, customization is the spice of life, don't you think?
á la "Dune"?
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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I kind of like the sound, but an option to turn it off should always be included.
Several posters said they have the startup sound as their cell phone ringtone. Where did you get it? Would appreciate the info [:)]
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John McComb said:
Dune is a science fiction novel in which there is a substance which is consicered to be of great value called "melange" but generally referred to as "spice." It gives extended life and precient awareness. Too long to summarize here. It was made into a movie which you might be able to catch sometime.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
It was made into a movie which you might be able to catch sometime.
George, please tell me what you have against John. Friends don't let friends watch the Dune movie. Worst. Movie. Ever. But the book is excellent.
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Chris Roberts said:George Somsel said:
It was made into a movie which you might be able to catch sometime.
George, please tell me what you have against John. Friends don't let friends watch the Dune movie. Worst. Movie. Ever. But the book is excellent.
Really? I caught the beginning of it once years ago, but I fell asleep. It's not unusual for Hollywood to ruin a good story. That's why I no longer watch TV or go to the movies. I loved The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, but I deliberately avoided the movie since I know what they do to books and didn't want the story spoiled.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
Dune is a science fiction novel in which there is a substance which is consicered to be of great value called "melange" but generally referred to as "spice." It gives extended life and precient awareness. Too long to summarize here. It was made into a movie which you might be able to catch sometime.
Yes George, I know what Dune is (This exchange kind of reminds me of that scene in the Seinfeld episode where Elaine asks Jerry, "Did you know that Mozart died while he was in the middle of writing his requiem mass?". His response,... "Yes, I know that. Everybody knows that. It was in Amadeus?").
Thanks for the clarification. I confess I missed the connection. That might have something to do with having never read the book and my inability to watch more than ten minutes of the movie without growing nauseous. Of course my use of (allusion to?) the idiom was intended to convey the meaning that predates Frank Herbert by a few hundred years.
Yours in Christ
John
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John McComb said:
Yes George, I know what Dune is (This exchange kind of reminds me of that scene in the Seinfeld episode where Elaine asks Jerry, "Did you know that Mozart died while he was in the middle of writing his requiem mass?". His response,... "Yes, I know that. Everybody knows that. It was in Amadeus?").
I don't believe I ever watched a complete episode of Seinfeld. What little I did see seemed like a complete bore.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Definitely keep the On/Off feature. & lower the default volume.
Give users the ability to add their own custom sounds.
Add several more packaged sounds. A few suggestions: 1) Birds singing 2) Church bells tolling 3) Ocean surf breaking 4) Baby laughing 5) Crickets chirping 6) Mozart's Turkish March 7) How about an Audio Bible Verse - maybe in Greek!
In Libronix Version 5.0 I want to SMELL bacon frying. for breakfast 8-)
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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I like having a startup sound. But I would like to suggest that you make it a bit shorter. I just timed it. It runs about 10 seconds which seems a little long to me. I remember thinking that the first time I heard it.
Of course, all of this depends on the purpose of the sound. As a branding sound -- one that immediately reminds people of the software (and everything good about it), I would keep it short and very distinctive. Right now it seems too long to be easily remembered and identified.
If it is meant to inspire people to study then a longer (and even customizable) startup sound would be appropriate.
Thanks for asking.
Kris
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MatthewCJones said:
In Libronix Version 5.0 I want to SMELL bacon frying. for breakfast 8-)
That's not Kosher.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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MatthewCJones said:
Add several more packaged sounds. A few suggestions: 1) Birds singing 2) Church bells tolling 3) Ocean surf breaking 4) Baby laughing 5) Crickets chirping 6) Mozart's Turkish March 7) How about an Audio Bible Verse - maybe in Greek!
Birds singing? Ocean surf? Add a rendition of Fur Elise on the panpipes and you'll have a little shop in a trendy fashion district that stinks of potpourri and has wind chimes danging from from every ceiling tile and gargoyle figurines on every shelf.
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Kris DeBruine said:
I like having a startup sound. But I would like to suggest that you make it a bit shorter. I just timed it. It runs about 10 seconds which seems a little long to me. I remember thinking that the first time I heard it.
Shorter? It's supposed to cover the Libronix startup time. I recommend lengthening it to 10 minutes.
Sorry. Old OS and antiquated computer. Nobody's fault but my own.
Yours in Christ
John
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John McComb said:
Birds singing? Ocean surf? Add a rendition of Fur Elise on the panpipes and you'll have a little shop in a trendy fashion district that stinks of potpourri and has wind chimes danging from from every ceiling tile and gargoyle figurines on every shelf.
Let's all sing like the birdies sing,
Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet[H]
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
I don't believe I ever watched a complete episode of Seinfeld. What little I did see seemed like a complete bore.
That's because you're a smart guy George. Humor like that is far to pedestrian to be appreciated by those who excede common intellect.
Yours in Christ
John
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Start-up sounds should be ~h.~.a.~.p.~.p.~.y.~. ala Mozart. [8]
I have a BIG back yard and am awakened every morning by Birdies singing. [C]
I used to live near the seashore in St. Augustine (Orange & Riberia Streets.) - happy times. [ip]
My 13th child only laughs since he's just 5 months old. [Z]
My Independent Baptist Church forgot to put a belfry on the new building. I wanna compensate. [6]
At the end of the day, I still have a BIG back yard and am serenaded to sleep by crickets. [S]
Lastly, I settled for Audio Greek because I can't figure out how to have my Reverse Interlinear read out loud to me. [co]
If you'd rather hear the Theme to Mission Impossible upon Start-Up, you should have that option.Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Bob Pritchett said:
Do you like having a startup sound in Logos Bible Software? Is it enough that you can turn it off in preferences, or should we just get rid of it? Or do you like it?
In the next version, should we go to the trouble to create a new sound? Can a little audio logo, or bumper music, get you into the mood to start your study, or is it just a distraction?
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
I do not like it.
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Kill it. Not needed and a memory drainer
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