Bug/Dataset Issue: Building a Word List from the Old Testament

I created a word list from the entire Old Testament (based on the NKJV) in order to study vocabulary. I noticed a few peculiarities so far...

The gloss for מַלְאָךְ mispells "God" - a simple spelling mistake: "messenger; messengers of God (prophets, priests, angels); angel of Go, Yahweh"

More worryingly, נוּס seems to be completely missing ("to flee, escape") even though it occurs 158 times in the NKJV.

In addition, there was at least one time where the word count did not match the results when I searched by lemma in the NKJV, which was strange.

Mostly, however, I am wondering why נוּס was missing and what else could possibly be missing.

Thank you,

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MJ. Smith

I hope you have reported via the typo option - then it helps the entire community.

When a lemma appears to be missing, go to an instance of it and use (a) interlinear, (b) information panel, or (c) context menu to see how Logos treats it. Assigning lemmas is not an exact science - rather there are multiple theories as to how to assign them. Read the Logos glossary to understand their approach.

One should expect the word count in the Greek to differ from the English in that the Greek is not exactly the text that the translators used - where they made choices, that choice is not reflected back into the Greek.

Dave Hooton

More worryingly, נוּס seems to be completely missing ("to flee, escape") even though it occurs 158 times in the NKJV.

נוס flee; drive on** does occur 158 times in NKJV. I did a Word List for Gen 14-39 and it was included with the correct count of 7.

** the gloss does vary e.g. BHW 4.18 has "to flee; to drive on"

Mostly, however, I am wondering why נוּס was missing and what else could possibly be missing.

Have you now found נוס flee; drive on? Unless very familiar with Hebrew, the word can be missed in a large List. I would sort by Gloss (looking for 'flee') or Count (looking for those occurring 158x).

I would doubt that anything is missing.

How did you build the Word List e.g. Gen-Mal?

In addition, there was at least one time where the word count did not match the results when I searched by lemma in the NKJV, which was strange.

Can you provide examples?

Robert Kelbe

Thank you, MJ and Dave!

Ahhh... נוּס was there. Long story... I had exported it into an Excel spreadsheet and accidentally had it filtered off. I also looked in the word list but I searched with a Shureq instead of a Vav. Sorry about that!

Regarding submitting a typo, I can't figure out what resource it is in, in order to submit a typo. I don't think it is LTW.

Robert Kelbe

Regarding the count, here is an example: the word list says 166 (based on the NKJV), but when I right-click, select the lemma, and Search "Bible" it shows as having 158 matches (in the NKJV). So I don't understand why that is, but that is OK; I don't need to waste anyone else's time!

Dave Hooton

Regarding submitting a typo, I can't figure out what resource it is in, in order to submit a typo.

Create a new thread with Title BUG:Typo in gloss for מַלְאָךְ

The gloss is a composite or truncation, so the typo is the phrase "angel of Go, Yahweh" as Yahweh is never a gloss for this word (I think it comes from Lexham Analytic Lexicon of the Hebrew Bible which states "the angel of God/Yahweh"). Just include the BWS screenshot above, though.

Dave Hooton

Regarding the count, here is an example: the word list says 166 (based on the NKJV), but when I right-click, select the lemma, and Search "Bible" it shows as having 158 matches (in the NKJV). So I don't understand why that is,

It is connected with the Hebrew Reverse Interlinear (complex to explain), so if you want a 'true'/reliable count build your Word List from a Hebrew Bible e.g. LHB, SESB.

EDIT: having said that, the word count in LHB was also wrong (139 instead of 160). I might create a bug report

MJ. Smith

I don't need to waste anyone else's time!

Rarely a waste of time. We all learn tracking down the details.