Changing a books Type Listing in Library

I downloaded Mornings by Tozer by A. W. Tozer and want to add it as a card on my home page. However, when I select Daily Devotions it is not listed in my list. This list is composed of Calendar Devotionals. Mornings by Tozer is listed as Monograph. I cannot find a way to change this type to Calendar Devotionals. Can anyone help me with this?

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MJ. Smith

Welcome to the forums.

I cannot find a way to change this type to Calendar Devotionals. Can anyone help me with this?

You cannot change a resource type. It is assigned by Logos to reflect the indexing and functionality associated with the resource. Calendar devotions must be divided by secular dates - liturgical dates or numbered days doesn't cut it.

JT (alabama24)

Welcome! [:)]

Can anyone help me with this?

MJ explained well that you can't do anything to change the resource. Either it was created as a "calendar devotional" by Logos or it wasn't. However...

You can create a reading plan with the resource. It will be tedious (but not difficult) to create a reading for each day. By doing so, you can recreate similar functionality. One disadvantage to this method, however, is that you can't simply open to the current day's reading while skipping over all the other days you didn't read. [:P]

Bob Lankford

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096122#Comment_1096122

Understood M. J., but not particularly crazy about the ruling. Perhaps I'm just still not that familiar with the Logos operation.

Bob Lankford

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096122#Comment_1096122

Thanks JT, I'll look into that. I appreciate it.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096233#Comment_1096233

Understood M. J., but not particularly crazy about the ruling.

It's not an arbitrary decision, though. The type of a library resource is nearly fully determined by the kind of index applied to it during production (bible indexes are applied to bibles, bible commentaries and bible notes, so there is some flexibility).

Calendar Devotionals require a Day-of-Year index - actually, the Logos edition of "Mornings with Tozer" has that kind of index and consequently is a type:"Calendar Devotional" that works on the home page - and only resources with this kind of index will work as a daily devotional on the Logos homepage. If this functionality is essential for you, you are free to buy the Logos edition and are done with all the hassle.

The eBook edition you use (and got for free, most probably) is a type:monograph without any index at all - this is typical for Faithlife eBooks which are produced automatically by a conversion macro from a publisher-provided ePub sourcefile. This process allows Faithlife to produce these books much faster and much cheaper than the edition:Logos resources, and use the publisher's standard eRetailer contracts - in most cases, it is coming down to having these books in non-indexed eBook format or not having them at all in the Logos library ("Mornings with Tozer" is a very rare exception where two editions of the same book are available).

It is possible to custom-build a Reading Plan for such a book (unfortunately the publisher inserted a monthly reprise of the cover picture, otherwise it would be much easier than for a Logos resource to have an automated Reading Plan built for it), or to just use it daily and thus Logos will open it at the right position for the next reading anyway.

Bob Lankford

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096244#Comment_1096244

I thank you N.B. and now I understand the ruling and it makes perfect sense. That being said, I formally apologize for my critical comment and if I could take it back I would. Therefore, I stand corrected and still a faithful user of Logos. Thank you again for the detailed response.

Bob

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096303#Comment_1096303

Thanks Bob, and no formal apology needed. I just wanted you to understand the rationale behind such things.

Brenda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096244#Comment_1096244

I am forced to move from Wordsearch to Logos. It moved more than half of my books to the monograph category. So that makes it impossible in my Logos library to find all of my resources by Type. For instance, to list all of my Bibles, it is incomplete because Bibles that were defaulted by Logos to Monograph instead of type Bible do not show up. It is unreasonable to expect us, especially new users, to search through 360+ items listed as Monographs to find one or 2 bibles that were cataloged incorrectly, or a few commentaries, etc. I understand that you are using the same data field to both indicate the Display List Type and the Search Type Ind. As a software engineer, I can state this is an example of very poor programming. You need to create two separate fields, and allow the end user to modify the Display List Type so that we can find our resources. After all, isn't that what you intended with the navigator termed Filter in the Library Tab? Please create a new Display List Type. If you can determine from the book properties, populate it with the correct value, otherwise populate with current value in the Search Type Ind. Provide a way for the end user to then modify the Display List Type to the correct value if you are unable to determine it. Thank you.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123034#Comment_1123034

It moved more than half of my books to the monograph category.

Many of the books initially transferred as eBooks. By the end of the year, FL intends to have them all converted into Logos resources. eBooks are by definition monographs as they lack the specialized coding of the other categories.

I understand that you are using the same data field to both indicate the Display List Type and the Search Type Ind. As a software engineer, I can state this is an example of very poor programming.

Having a (long) lifetime of experience in IT (from wiring sorters to web applications), I can assure you that you have misunderstood the FL data model and, therefore, judged them unfairly on this particular issue. On the other hand, I strongly desire that they expose more resource trait information. However, the mechanism that they have provided for what you want as a temporary measure while FL continues the WS conversion is mytag which you can set in the information panel of the resource itself or in the library. You will find the Search indicators (search fields and indexes) farther down in the information panel.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123034#Comment_1123034

Welcome to the forums. I answered this question on your other post. Faithlife has indicated that this is a temporary situation. They decided it was more important to give you immediate access although in eBook format rather than make you wait until the end of the year when they expect the conversion into full Logos format to be completed. As you Wordsearch still works, if this is too cumbersome for you wait until later in the year to move over to Logos. It will resolve itself.

John Fidel

I downloaded Mornings by Tozer by A. W. Tozer and want to add it as a card on my home page. However, when I select Daily Devotions it is not listed in my list. This list is composed of Calendar Devotionals. Mornings by Tozer is listed as Monograph. I cannot find a way to change this type to Calendar Devotionals. Can anyone help me with this?

Bob,

I am not certain, but I would expect this to eventually be set up as a devotional. They just wanted to get the books out as soon as possible and should follow up in changing this before year end... just my guess.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123034#Comment_1123034

I am forced to move from Wordsearch to Logos.

Your Wordsearch 12 installation should continue to work as it always has for a long time. Eventually some of the Wordsearch servers may be turned off, but our understanding is that disabling use of the Internet in the program options will allow you to bypass that. If Logos isn't meeting your needs right now, please don't feel forced to use it, but continue using Wordsearch.

It moved more than half of my books to the monograph category. So that makes it impossible in my Logos library to find all of my resources by Type.

This is a temporary inconvenience; please see our explanation here of why we chose this route to get you your books as quickly as possible: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193938/1117970.aspx#1117970

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123063#Comment_1123063

I would expect this to eventually be set up as a devotional. They just wanted to get the books out as soon as possible and should follow up in changing this before year end... just my guess.

For clarification: Bob's post was unrelated to the Word Search migration. Check the date [:)]

John Fidel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123183#Comment_1123183

Good point, so I am probably mistaken in my assumption.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123185#Comment_1123185

There is no reason to believe the resource will be updated soon, but one can hope. [:)]

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123186#Comment_1123186

There is no reason to believe the resource will be updated soon, but one can hope.

I let our internal team know that we have both Logos and FLEB versions of Mornings with Tozer and it sounds like we're going to upgrade those with the FLEB edition to the Logos edition, which is tagged properly as a calendar devotional.

Brad

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123365#Comment_1123365

I let our internal team know that we have both Logos and FLEB versions of Mornings with Tozer and it sounds like we're going to upgrade those with the FLEB edition to the Logos edition, which is tagged properly as a calendar devotional.

Good news, Bradley. Thank you very much.

John Fidel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123797#Comment_1123797

HI Brad,

You should now have both resources designated as Calendar Devotions. You can keep the monograph version since it was not replaced or you can "hide" it using program settings. Let me know if you need assistance with this.

Scott Cody

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1096103#Comment_1096103

I understand that a resource TYPE is determined by the LOGOS staff and cannot be changed, but I was wondering how LOGOS differentiated a COMMENTARY and a BIBLE STUDY? I was searching for Bible Studies on Hebrews and was surprised that some resources I would consider BIBLE STUDIES are typed as COMMENTARIES.

The John MacArthur resouce

LLS:53.10.54
2022-06-09T14:51:13Z
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is listed as a COMMENTARY even though it is part of the John MacArthur Bible Study series and has fill-in-the-blank questions with each chapter. The same is true for this resource

LLS:NYABS79HEB

2014-11-20T22:18:28Z

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