Just starting with Logos, two questions
I'm looking for a bible app that will sync notes between Windows and Android and hopefully share note sets with others. So far Logos looks promising.
1. I've got the free level of both Windows and Android apps. I can access the ASV translation on Android but not Windows. Is this normal? How do I get the ASV on the Windows version?
I'm nervous about this inconsistency - Am I going to have to buy a copy of a book for each platform I'm on? Is it normal that a book will be free in one platform but paid in another?
2. Is there a way to have the Windows app open where I left off? I quite despise opening a bible app and first getting confronted with essentially advertising, in a paid app nonetheless. I don't want the app to distract me. I want to go straight to my content.
Marvin
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Hello Marvin,
The Windows/MAC version of the software does not contain the parity the Logos Mobile app has from the playstore. The Logos Mobile app is lacking as far as I am concerned. It should sync your notes and highlights from the desktop version but I don't use the app for anything except reading on my phone. For indepth study I use the desktop program because it has much more power. In the Mobile app you can turn off those advertisements. But use a computer for real study but if you are just reading the Logos Mobile app will suffice.
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Hi Marvin,
Welcome to the Logos forums!
Marvin H said:I've got the free level of both Windows and Android apps. I can access the ASV translation on Android but not Windows. Is this normal? How do I get the ASV on the Windows version?
The Mobile apps provide free access to a small number of resources.
If you also wanted to access one of those resources on Windows, you'd have to buy it.
You can purchase the ASV for your account, and it would become available on Windows.
Marvin H said:Am I going to have to buy a copy of a book for each platform I'm on?
No. When you buy a resource, you own it, and it can be accessed from any platform. You'd only buy something once, and get access to it everywhere.
Marvin H said:Is it normal that a book will be free in one platform but paid in another?
I don't believe a book can be purchased for free on one platform, but had a cost on another platform.
Logos does offer many free books that you can purchase for $0.00 and they are free everywhere, regardless of platform.
To technically explain what's happening with the ASV, the mobile app is providing free access -- an access-only license -- to the ASV on Android, not giving you ownership -- a permanent license -- of the ASV. Since you don't own the ASV, that's why you can't access it from Windows.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Marvin H said:
2. Is there a way to have the Windows app open where I left off?
Welcome [:D]
Yes, Change Program Settings for "At Startup Open to" => Most recent layout - local
Marvin H said:1. I've got the free level of both Windows and Android apps. I can access the ASV translation on Android but not Windows. Is this normal? How do I get the ASV on the Windows version?
Seem to remember Mobile App and older https://biblia.com having ~50 free Bibles available for online use. Not know if ASV would appear in Logos Web App => https://app.logos.com (since my demonstration account with $ 0.00 order total has a temporary license for ASV).
Bible alternative to consider for the ASV is the Lexham English Bible (LEB). ASV was published in 1901 while LEB was released in 2012 (with similar literal translation focus as ASV while using more recent English)
Screen shot shows one column per page so footnotes appear. LEB has footnotes while ASV does not.
Worthwhile upgrade to consider is Logos 8 Fundamentals that is on sale for 50 % off at $ 49.99 (datasets enable <Person> searching, &c.)
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Thanks to all these replies. They are very helpful and thorough. Much appreciated.
I figure I'd post my noob questions to the same thread, that way would have a good idea at how Logos-green I am.
I've been working my way through a chronological Bible reading plan in my youversion bible app. Thought I might try to switch over to Logos. I found and started a chronological Bible reading plan in Logos, but it set the start day to today. I would like to change it to Jan 1 and then mark all the readings read to 'catch up'. Only I can't see any settings anywhere to edit a plan. Is this possible?
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Marvin H said:
I would like to change it to Jan 1 and then mark all the readings read to 'catch up'. Only I can't see any settings anywhere to edit a plan. Is this possible?
Yes from the desktop program you can edit the reading plan. Open it from the Docs menu and then you can edit it.
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Thanks for the post. I Just found it now... Tried the mobile app, where I made the made the plan, didn't work to edit. Ran through the help, and tried the web app, because I wasn't at my machine with the Windows app, didn't work to edit. Finally tried to edit in the Windows app and it matched the help instructions.
I'm finding the inconsistencies and Logos-pardigms of doing stuff frustrating. Inconsistency between what is available on mobile vs web/windows, interfaces that don't work in obvious or consistent ways, help that refers to only the windows version when the web version is visually identical. And, I'm not looking forward to a future of being $9.99'ed to death to get books/translations that are free in every other bible app.
I feel bad asking simple questions here, but when something as simple as 'add bible', 'install bible' nets absolutely nothing in the help what is a person to do? I search the help and the forum before I post, but when a developer has their own very unique philosophy, and I'm not thinking that way yet, it's going to be a tough climb.
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Worthwhile upgrade to consider is Logos 8 Fundamentals that is on sale for 50 % off at $ 49.99 (datasets enable <Person> searching, &c.)
I agree with KS4J the Fundamentals package is a great starting place. If you look at what you get for that price... there is a lot of power under the hood.
If all you need is a 10 speed bike to scoot around then Logos will likely be overkill for your wants or needs. But if you need a tractor to do some heavy lifting or a 4x4 to go off-roading and climb some mountains then you will need to invest a little more to get that.
Over 12 years I have spent in the neighborhood of $5,000 dollars on Logos. But for that $5,000 I have 9,000 resources... mostly books, Bibles, commentaries, biographies, histories, theology, surveys, studies, etc. The average price per book works out to about 55 cents. Which I think is a great deal. My average outlay per month has been about $40, some months I spend more and sometimes much less.
In the Logos library all my resources are instantly searchable and I can get what ever information I need from them in seconds. The power is amazing and no other Bible software in my opinion comes close to it. There are free and low costs solutions that are right for some people, but if you want or need power... Logos is your answer.
Having said that, like using any powerful tool, software or hardware, there is a learning curve to learn to utilize the software... but it is worth delving into if you have the time or inclination.
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Marvin H said:
Inconsistency between what is available on mobile vs web/windows, interfaces that don't work in obvious or consistent ways, help that refers to only the windows version when the web version is visually identical.
Feature parity doesn’t exist between the different platforms, and isn’t the goal. FYI, if you expect the different platforms to be able to all do the same things, you’ll be setting yourself up for disappointment.
The desktop software will always be more powerful/functional than the web app or mobile. The web app may look similar to the desktop, but it won’t do everything the desktop app can. Mobile is great for reading and some study, but doesn’t offer editing of reading plans, as you noticed.
Marvin H said:And, I'm not looking forward to a future of being $9.99'ed to death to get books/translations that are free in every other bible app.
The software has always been free (and when Logos 9 comes out, likely this fall, you be able to get that upgrade for free). Logos tends to be more powerful than anything you’d generally find on another bible app. The cost of the software development is supported by the resource sales, but if you wait for a great sale, you won’t have to pay $9.99 per translation.
Your best bet is to figure out which resources you need, then see which bundles contain those resources. You can often get a great collection of resources at 90% off, and pay less than buying books individually.
Fundamentals is 50% off for new customers. That’s a great deal, and should be purchased before anything else. Make sure to check out its LT271 Study the Bible with Logos course for help on learning to use the different features and tools of the program!
The current 30% off sale is one of the best offers to come along on base packages (but it ends in a few days). Faithlife has payment plans that would help spread out the cost of any purchase.
I understand that the software or in-app help may be different from what you’re used to in other apps, but if you give it a chance, I think you’ll find it to be a blessing, as you study the Bible!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Is there a way to hide all resources of a certain language as a default setting?
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Hi Steven
Steven New said:Is there a way to hide all resources of a certain language as a default setting?
Please start a new thread in this forum and provide a bit more detail of what you are hoping to do.
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