Jerome Smith - Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury

LW
LW Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
edited December 2024 in English Forum

Surely one of the most used and loved resources in Logos/Verbum is the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. A substantially updated version came out in the 1990's, by Jerome Smith, but this was again substantially updated by him in 2016. This looks like a jaw-dropper, something that everyone should want. Since relatively few users know about UserVoice, I think, and relatively few browse it, I think very few know that they would be doing themselves a favor by going to https://suggestbooks.uservoice.com/forums/308269-book-suggestions/suggestions/18446248-the-ultimate-cross-reference-treasury and voting. I just brought the vote count up to 78.

I actually came upon this while searching for resources that give figures of speech; I wished that the Bullinger work or its dataset would either be link-set-able with Bibles, or work as a pop-up, much as parsing info will pop up when the mouse cursor is hovered over a word in a Greek Bible. What I read led me to understand that neither Bullinger resource in Logos/Verbum operates in either of these ways, but the New Treasury marks some figures of speech, and the new Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury has much more of this, and a much more wonderful set of cross references.

These things being the case, I have a couple of questions:

1. Does Faithlife have any concrete plans to bring this new book in, at this point?

2. If not, would Jerome Smith, who I think contributes at these forums, consider making and selling the book as a Personal Book for Logos/Verbum, such that it could be put in a link-set with a Bible as the TSK can be? It is my understanding that something like this was done for E-Sword. (I hope it's alright for me to ask.)

Have a great day, everyone!

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  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,847 ✭✭✭

    I just put in my 3 votes 👍😁👌 This should’ve been in Logos a long time ago.

    DAL

  • Dan Cleghorn
    Dan Cleghorn Member Posts: 209 ✭✭

    I put my 3 votes in also.

  • LW
    LW Member Posts: 57 ✭✭

    I just found a more detailed description of it, for anyone interested: http://www.realbiblestudy.com/?p=2148. I'll copy and paste part of the preface. The author wrote there:

    [quote]

    I have:

    1. made these new references far more numerous and complete (see Psalm 80:9; Romans 15:7);

    2. more carefully sorted the references given at many verses to more accurately reflect the connection to the associated keyword (see Genesis 26:24; Exodus 26:14; Leviticus 9:22; 26:6; Numbers 12:10; Deuteronomy 6:5; 29:18; 2 Samuel 7:23, 24; 2 Kings 13:21; 25:13; Job 8:13; Psalm 5:5; 34:6, 7; 74:20; 76:9; 92:4; 119:155; 140:13; Isaiah 32:17; 47:11; Ezekiel 14:11; Hosea 9:11; Matthew 9:2; Luke 5:26; 15:10; John 9:39; 10:10; 15:20; 2 Corinthians 11:31; 1 Timothy 6:1; 2 Timothy 1:14).

    3. repeated references when the reference has application to more than one keyword in the verse, because often in study I am focusing on a very narrow or precisely defined subject or topic, and the connections that are really there would be missed if they are not given everywhere they apply (see 2 Th 3:2, where reference to +*Ps 32:7 is repeated at the keywords “delivered” and also “from”);

    4. added many new keywords (see Leviticus 26:6; Numbers 12:10; Deuteronomy 29:18; 2 Chronicles 7:3; Job 8:13; Psalm 5:5; 38:1; Ezekiel 14:11; Luke 5:29; John 10:10; 15:20; 1 Timothy 6:1; 2 Timothy 1:14);

    5. corrected many “clipped” or orphaned references (see at Ezekiel 23:32 thou shalt be laughed reference to Psalm 79:3 which is only relevant when reference to Psalm 79:4 is included with it; at Ezekiel 20:13 to consume reference to Deuteronomy 32:27 is clarified greatly by supplying Deuteronomy 32:26 with it; so likewise at Habakkuk 1:16 they reference to Ezekiel 28:3 which lacks relevance without including Ezekiel 28:4; similarly, Deuteronomy 26:18 reference to Ezekiel 36:25-27 has been corrected to read Ezekiel 36:25-28; at Luke 1:25 hath reference to Genesis 30:22 should have read Genesis 30:22, 23 since it is verse 23 that is relevant, a frequent occurrence from the arbitrary cutting of references in the original Treasury of Scripture Knowledge; at Acts 18:6 unto the Gentiles is clarified by adding Acts 19:9 so as to read Acts 19:8, 9; and so forth);

    6. corrected many errors in the cross-references, so that it should be almost impossible for any intensive user of these references to encounter any more printing mistakes;

    7. added many unique cross references never provided before in previous published material (see 2 Chronicles 6:37; Psalm 98:2; Luke 5:29), references discovered in my own study of the Bible during the nearly 25 years since the publication of The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge;

    8. provided as many reciprocal references as could be found, given the time available to me (now six full years, and according to my notes, more than 2016 full days of study, morning, afternoon, and evening!). I have often thought life is too short for one person to create this even more complete study tool—but this tool is likely more complete than any similar work previously produced. The initial motivation to begin this work stems from requests made by students of the Bible asking for more references, specifically references to the Old Testament to be given for verses in the New Testament, especially for the Sermon on the Mount as given in Matthew 5—7. I am sure I have fulfilled that request, and much more.

    9. provided a full enumeration of the provisions of the Abrahamic (Genesis 12:2) and Davidic (2 Samuel 7:10) Covenants and greatly expanded cross references for each provision. In studying Mr. George N. H. Peters’ work, The Theocratic Kingdom, I was motivated to study these great covenants even further in response to Peters’ well-founded Bible study suggestion in Volume 1, page 285, under “Proposition 46: The Kingdom anticipated by the Jews at the First Advent is based on the Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants.” In a paragraph under Observation 1, Peters states: “Indeed, it is universally admitted, however explained afterward, that the covenants are the proper basis of future Revelation, and that they contain in an epitomized form the substance of God’s Purpose in reference to man’s Salvation, the Messiah’s Kingdom and glory, and the perfected Redemption from the curse. Hence, men of all shades of opinion agreeing in this matter, it is essential for any one who desires to become a real student of God’s Word to make himself familiar with these covenants, seeing, that, in the nature of the case, all things following must correspond fully with these previously given pledges and guides.”

    10. greatly expanded the references to the Figures of Speech (see, for example, Genesis 8:22, FS148, the Figure Polysyndeton, or “Many Ands,” where many more references are given);

    11. added many more examples of cause/effect relationship verses to the listing at Psalm 9:10;

    12. added many significant new entries in the Subject Index (see, for example, the entries for “general call,” “effectual call,” “prevenient grace,” “TULIP” and its subcategories explaining this acronym and the full Scriptural documentation for each subcategory);

    13. corrected the Name Index, so it should now be a perfectly complete listing of Bible names as they appear in the King James or Authorized Version, including the Translators’ marginal readings and renderings;

    14. increased by several times over the number of entries in the Greek Strong Number Index; I did this to meet the need of missionaries I have heard from who complained that when they tried to follow the cross references in the original Greek they did not seem to properly relate to each other as they did in an English translation; I have placed the cross references to the original language separately from the usual subject cross references familiar to English users so that either study purpose is easy to follow.

    15. Added new enumerated studies on the Attributes of God (Genesis 18:25); the Angel of Jehovah (Genesis 22:15); the names and titles of the Antichrist (Micah 5:5); and by the gracious full permission of Dr. Malcolm L. Lavender and his son Dr. R. L. Lavender, given additional notes and grammatical discussions to provide deeper, more accurate insight into the doctrine of the Atonement of Christ throughout the New Testament, from their just published (2016) Lavender’s New Testament (LNT), A Literal Translation of the Robinson-Pierpont Majority Text (1995), for which by invitation I wrote the Preface.

    16. Expanded my notes on the Rules of Interpretation at 2 Peter 1:20, furnishing for some of the rules reference to specific examples of their proper application.

    17. Restored all the notes given in Bagster’s original study Bible, The Comprehensive Bible (prepared in 1826), the source of all the original cross references and notes in the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (prepared in 1834): I have restored the full notes where the original Treasury editors arbitrarily “truncated” them, and I have restored the many notes which were left out altogether; I have restored the original bibliographical documentation for these notes as given in The Comprehensive Bible. These notes are always identified by a preceding “Note:” designation.

    18. Included a new and corrected Notes Index from The Comprehensive Bible for its claimed 4000 notes.

    19. Restored British spelling for keywords to conform more precisely to the King James Version (KJV), also called the Authorized Version (AV), as well as the notes;

    20. Furnished new notes culled from over five years of my active participation on Internet forums where I provided careful answers to Bible questions, or developed apologetic material in defense of truly Biblical doctrine in answer to the claims and objections of those who support mistaken theological positions.

    21. Expanded the major discussion of how to study the Bible at an extensive note newly written for Hebrews 6:9.

  • JKG
    JKG Member Posts: 13 ✭✭

    I know this is an old thread, but whatever happened to this request? Is the ultimate treasure available, or will it be available in Logos?

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭

    Most recent:

    Scroll to the bottom for Faithlife comments. Essentially Ultimate remains a Logosian ask.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Francis
    Francis Member Posts: 3,958 ✭✭✭
    edited April 3

    In the interest of illustrating the content of this update, here is the entire entry on Genesis 1:1. It can be used to compare with editions of TSK currently in Logos for evaluation purposes as suggestion. This is copyrighted material.

    Genesis 1:1

    B.C. 4004.
    beginning. In this short sentence, the Bible places itself in antagonism to a whole phalanx of opinions taught in ancient schools of philosophy or incorporated with ancient systems of religion. This sentence is a denial of the Greek doctrine of the eternity of matter; of the Epicurean doctrine of a fortuitous concourse of atoms, as that out of which the Kosmos arose; of the stoic doctrine of an all-compelling fate; of the Pantheistic doctrine of the identity of God with the
    universe; of the Polytheistic doctrine of a plurality of gods, and of the dualistic doctrine of a good and a bad principle dividing the formation and the rule of the world between them (J. Lindsay Alexander, Biblical Theology, cited by Wilbur M. Smith, Chats from a Minister’s Library, Chapter 11, "Notes from the Margins of My Bible," p. 147). *Pro_8:22-24; Pro_16:4, Mar_13:19, *Joh_1:1-3; Joh_15:27, Act_1:1; Act_1:22, *Heb_1:10, 1Jn_1:1, Rev_3:14.


    God. Heb. Elohim. A plural noun, the singular form of which is Eloah, meaning "The Worshipful One;" it seems to point out a superabundance of qualities in the Divine Being rather than a plurality of persons, as it is applied alike to Jehovah
    and to the false gods of the nations. It is found almost invariably accompanied by a verb in the singular number (Robert Young, Concise Critical Comments, p. 1). S# H430. Gen_2:2; +Gen_19:29, +Exo_2:24, +Psa_45:6; Psa_82:6 note.
    Psa_89:11-12, Eph_3:9, *Col_1:16; *Col_1:17; *Col_1:18, *Heb_1:2.

    created. Heb. bara, +S# H1254: Gen_1:21; Gen_1:27; Gen_2:3; Gen_5:2; Gen_6:7, Deu_4:32, Psa_89:12; Psa_89:47, Isa_4:5; Isa_40:26; Isa_41:20; Isa_43:7; Isa_45:8; Isa_45:12; Isa_45:18; Isa_54:16, Jer_31:22, +Mal_2:10, In Scripture, only God is said to create something from nothing, thus creation is something only God can do. No created being has or can have this power that belongs to God only. 2Sa_22:31, *Neh_9:6, Job_38:4; Job_38:7, *Psa_33:6; *Psa_33:9; Psa_147:3-5, Pro_3:19, Ecc_3:11-14, *Isa_40:22; *Isa_40:26; Isa_42:5; Isa_44:24; Isa_45:7; Isa_45:12; *Isa_45:18, *Jer_32:17, +Mal_2:10 (+S# H1254). +Joh_1:3, *Act_17:24, Rom_1:19-20; Rom_11:36, 1Co_8:6, Heb_3:4; *Heb_11:3, Rev_4:11; *Rev_10:6.

    heaven. Gen_2:4; Gen_14:19; Gen_14:22, *Exo_20:11; Exo_31:17, Deu_10:14, 2Ki_19:15, 1Ch_16:26; *1Ch_29:11, 2Ch_2:12, Job_9:8-10; *Job_26:7-13; Job_37:18, Psa_8:3; *Psa_19:1; Psa_24:2; *Psa_89:11; *Psa_89:12; Psa_96:5; *Psa_102:25; Psa_104:2; Psa_104:5; Psa_104:24; *Psa_104:30; Psa_115:15-16; *Psa_121:2; Psa_124:8; Psa_134:3; Psa_136:5-6; Psa_146:6; Psa_147:8; Psa_148:4-5, *Pro_8:22-30, *Ecc_12:1, Isa_37:16; Isa_40:21; *Isa_40:26; Isa_40:28; Isa_45:12; Isa_48:13; Isa_51:13; Isa_51:16; *Isa_65:17, *Jer_10:12; Jer_27:5; *Jer_32:17; *Jer_51:15, *Zec_12:1, Mat_11:25, Act_4:24; *Act_14:15, 2Pe_3:4-5, Rev_14:7; *Rev_21:1; *Rev_21:6; Rev_22:13.


    earth. Exo_19:5, Psa_24:1-2; Psa_50:12; Psa_74:16-17; *Psa_90:2.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,829

    This is certainly curious. Is it a licensing issue? Does Logos think it won't sell? Puzzling.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA