Desktop Computer Purchase

Jim Wisland

I'm interested in purchasing a desktop computer to better run Logos 8.

I currently have a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 but it's 6 years old & a little sluggish in performing basic tasks like opening a new book. It is believed that a new Dell gaming computer will enhance the overall functioning. However, the various options that Dell offers are quite confusing. I don't wish to spend money on a computer that will have trouble running the next version of Logos but I also don't want to overspend on options that will not improve the overall functioning of Logos.

Any suggestions from computer geeks?

Dave Hooton

An SSD is essential - at least 500 GB, with 8/16 GB memory. CPU should be latest generation Intel i5/i7 with at least 4 cores, multi-threaded. A separate video card is not essential if the CPU has a built-in GPU. Monitor resolution can be confusing, but 4K is not essential; 1920 x 1080 should be ok.

Jan Krohn

Look for a small to medium computer shop near you, that has good reviews, and get a custom built computer, so you don't spend money on anything you don't need, and you can pick the best components for running Logos at high performance. And custom built computers are usually more affordable than brand names. Plus, you'll have in-person support near you. The sales person will likely not know about Logos, so you'll need to explain to them that it requires high computing power, but has no special graphics or sound requirements.

Some ideas what you could look out for:

• Mainboard. I've made good experience with GigaByte mainboards.
• CPU. Usually Intel is the only choice, but AMD is also good. It's easy to waste money with high end CPUs, as for a high end CPU, you pay a lot of surplus for just a small performance increase. The CPU is not the bottleneck for Logos, although it should not be too slow either.
• RAM. Put in as much as possible. 16 GB is the absolute minimum. RAM should be fast, and also make sure it's a brand or an OEM module. Don't accept generic modules.
• Hard disk. SSD is the best, but awfully expensive. It's definitely the best performance boost for Logos, next to RAM. If you go for SSD, make sure it's a brand, such as Samsung (or a respective OEM). As for size, look up how much you use on your current hard disk, and double that figure. That's about what you'll need. If that's going to be too expensive, another good option is to have an SSD for Windows, Logos, and other software that you might need, and a second normal hard disk for files, documents, photos, videos etc.
• Graphic/sound. No need to invest. The mainboard has everything integrated that you need for Logos.
• DVD/bluray. Usually no longer needed, but having a cheap OEM DVD drive or burner for emergencies can be helpful at times. Or you can go for a bluray drive if you also want to watch movies on the computer.
• Wifi. Some mainboards don't have it integrated. Something you don't want to forget...
• Screen. Large screens have become really affordable. There are many good brands.
• Mouse, Keyboard, Webcam. You get what you pay for. Avoid generic products.Good brands are Cherry and Logitech.
• Speakers and/or headset. Again, you get what you pay for. Some screens have integrated speakers.

In general, you will have the choice between branded (retail) and OEM components. OEM products are not generic. They just lack the retail package, and sometimes look simpler than retail components. Selecting OEM components can be a huge money saver.

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Searching Amazon electronics for mini gaming desktop having 64 GB & Above for Ram) found some Intel and VENOEN computers

$594.99 Intel NUC 10 Performance Kit – Intel Core i7 Processor (Tall Chassis) has Intel Core i7-10710U Up to 4.7GHz so add your own Ram and Storage => https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC-10-Performance-Kit/dp/B08357VWB2/ref=sr_1_6

$1,094.99 Intel NUC10i7FNH Mini PC, Intel Core i7-10710U Up to 4.7GHz, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, HDMI, Thunderbolt, Card Reader, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Windows 10 Pro => https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC10i7FNH-i7-10710U-Thunderbolt-Bluetooth/dp/B084MLRLMN/ref=sr_1_16

$1,300 Intel NUC10i7FNH Mini PC, Intel Core i7-10710U Up to 4.7GHz, 64GB RAM, 2TB NVMe SSD + 1TB HDD, HDMI, Thunderbolt, Card Reader, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Windows 10 Pro => https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC10i7FNH-i7-10710U-Thunderbolt-Bluetooth/dp/B084MLRLMN/ref=sr_1_16

$1,469.15 VENOEN Gaming Computer, Intel Core i9 9880H 64GB DDR4 RAM 512GB NVME SSD Mini PC [HDMI/Mini/Type-C/Wi-Fi/BT/USB 3.0] => https://www.amazon.com/VENOEN-Gaming-Computer-Intel-Type-C/dp/B083J64F3T/ref=sr_1_52

$1,566.99 VENOEN Gaming Computer, Intel Core i9 9880H 64GB DDR4 RAM 512GB NVME SSD Mini PC [HDMI/Mini/Type-C/Wi-Fi/BT/USB 3.0] => https://www.amazon.com/VENOEN-Gaming-Computer-Intel-Type-C/dp/B083J5K2HL/ref=sr_1_52

Searching Amazon electronics for i9 gaming desktop having 64 GB & Above for Ram) since 9th generation i9 has the fastest single core CPU benchmarks => https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks (variety of models in Top 25: Intel i9, i7, i5, AMD Ryzen 9, Threadripper, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5)

$2,099.99 Adamant Custom Liquid Cooled Workstation Computer Desktop PC Intel Core i9 9900K 3.6Ghz Asus Tuf Z390 64Gb DDR4 RAM 4TB HDD 500Gb SSD 550W PSU WIN10 PRO Wi-Fi Bluetooth => https://www.amazon.com/Adamant-Estaci%C3%B3n-trabajo-refrigerada-Bluetooth/dp/B07SY91V7Q/ref=sr_1_9

$2,737.99 Dell XPS 8930 Special Edition Tower Desktop - 9th Gen Intel 8-Core i9-9900K CPU up to 5.00 GHz, 64GB RAM, 4TB SSD + 8TB Hard Drive, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB, DVD Burner, Windows 10 Home, Silver => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-8930-Special-Tower-Desktop/dp/B07YYLPT5F/ref=sr_1_44

Searching Amazon for Dell gaming laptop (with 64 GB Ram & 17.3" screen for easier reading) found some models for price comparison

Dell Inspiron i3793 17.3" LED-Backlit Full HD Laptop - 10th Gen Intel Core i7-1065G7 4-Core up to 3.90 GHz CPU, 64GB DDR4 RAM, 2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX230 Graphics, Windows 10 (64-bit)

$1,454.99 Pro 512 GB SSD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B083C4P3DX/ref=sr_1_9

$1,558.99 Pro 1 TB SSD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B083C544CC/ref=sr_1_3

$1,662.99 Home 2 TB SSD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B082Z92TYH/ref=sr_1_2

Some Dell Inspiron i3793 models include a second storage device

$1,558.99 Home 512 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B0839NM8XK/ref=sr_1_12

$1,662.99 Pro 1 TB SSD + 1 TB HDD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B083JK4Q9W/ref=sr_1_22

$1,799.99 Pro 2 TB SSD + 2 TB HDD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B083JKF4KK/ref=sr_1_13

Reducing Ram from 64 GB to 32 GB includes:

$1,566.99 Home 2 TB SSD + 2 TB HDD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B083B62CXB/ref=sr_1_24

$1,454.99 Home 1 TB SSD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B082Z8QCVQ/ref=sr_1_45

$1,351.99 Home 512 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3793-LED-Backlit-Laptop/dp/B0839N81GN/ref=sr_1_28

Also noticed 2019 laptop/tablet model with 1 TB SSD + 2 TB HDD (albeit Windows tablet mode is a bit challenging for Logos & Verbum)

$1,561.67 Dell Inspiron 17 7000 2-in-1 2019 Flagship 17.3" FHD IPS Touchscreen Laptop/Tablet, Intel Quad-Core i7-8565U, 32GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 2GB GeForce MX150 Backlit KB Fingerprint Reader Win 10 Home => https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-17-Flagship-Touchscreen-Quad-Core-KB-Fingerprint/dp/B07QR81VNT/ref=sr_1_9

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