Is there a way to have the verses show up in English for when using the Septuagint in a Bible Word Study? I get why they are in Greek but would like to see a list of those verses in English.
Well, I'm still on L7, but when doing LXX BWS's, I have 2 sections with the 'circles' ... one called 'Translation' (english; NABRE), and the other Septuagint Translation (greek; Logos LXX). Ergo english verses or greek verses.
Now you're in business.
That's perfect. Thanks!
I've asked the same question to Logos and they were not very helpful at all. This is very helpful. Thank you. Just a follow up. I can see the English verses in LES. But is it possible to see the verses in, say, ESV?
I don't mind doing it in 2 steps. If Logos can output the verses in such a manner that I can cut-paste into "Copy Bible Verses" tool, then I can get the ESV translation of these verses. Is this possible?
Thanks
Naveen
I can see the English verses in LES. But is it possible to see the verses in, say, ESV?
Not from the Translation ring as the ESV doesn't have Greek words in the Old Testament
But if you scroll down to the Textual Searches section and choose the LXX, you can add the ESV as an additional version into the resulting search panel
Hi Graham,
Sorry for the late reply. As far as I can recall, I didn't receive any email notification that some one replied to my post. I was surprised to see your reply when I went to the Forum directly.
Graham. You are God sent. Your response was super helpful. It did what I wanted, spot on.
If I may ask a follow up question. How do I limit the output of the Septuagint to the books of the Old Testament? I looked at the list of Resources to see if I can isolate it, but I couldn't. Thank you in advance if you could offer any pointers.
Hi Naveen
Sorry for the late reply. As far as I can recall, I didn't receive any email notification that some one replied to my post.
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Your response was super helpful. It did what I wanted, spot on.
That is good to hear
If I may ask a follow up question. How do I limit the output of the Septuagint to the books of the Old Testament?
Do you mean just the books in the Protestant canon?
If so, I can't think of any easy way of doing that. You can't just search in Get-Mal as some of the other books are interspersed among them
Thanks Graham.
1) I will be sure to check "Email me replies to this post" going forward.
2) Yes, I wanted to limit the Septuagint to the Protestant Canon. But that is ok if it is not possible. I can try and take the output to a Word file and then manually drop the non-Protestant references.
Thank you very much. Much appreciated.
How do I limit the output of the Septuagint to the books of the Old Testament?
Let me use this as a teachable moment, setting aside Western Christianity where it might devolve into a theological argument.
Therefore, it is reasonable that when looking at LXX data, the software assume that the user considers the LXX as the canonical standard
Oh, Barnabas, Barnabas! Where art thou, Barnabas? Smiling.
Thanks MJ for the history lesson. Very helpful. Much appreciated.
I wanted to limit the Septuagint to the Protestant Canon. But that is ok if it is not possible. I can try and take the output to a Word file and then manually drop the non-Protestant references.
You would need to know the divisions that occur within books like Esdras B e.g. Ch 1-10 = Ezra, Ch 11-23 = Neh, Also, variations within Psalms and other 'Protestant' books. However, you can let Logos handle that if you modify the query by adding WITHIN {Milestone <Bible Gen-Mal>} (in a Search of All Passages in a Septuagint resource) e.g. <Lemma = lbs/el/θεός> WITHIN {Milestone <Bible Gen-Mal>}
However, you can let Logos handle that if you modify the query by adding WITHIN {Milestone <Bible Gen-Mal>} (in a Search of All Passages in a Septuagint resource) e.g. <Lemma = lbs/el/θεός> WITHIN {Milestone <Bible Gen-Mal>}
Thanks Dave - I didn't think of that!
Thanks Dave for your response.
Please see above a cut-paste (first time doing this here) of my query. I think I have it the way you suggested. But I still find that no filter was applied. If you have the time to point out my mistake, that would be great.
Thank you,
I'd almost posted earlier to note that Dave and Graham were making assumptions as to the sequence and canon of your highest priority Bible. Unfortunately, I don't see your query for verification of what the problem is.
Please try again using the paperclip icon in the forum editor
I think I have it the way you suggested. But I still find that no filter was applied.
Result shows alignment to ESV e.g. LXX Dan 3:92 = ESV Dan 3:25
Thanks MJ for your response and Thanks Dave Hooton for trying to figure out my mess. Thanks Graham for pointing out how to include attachments. All of your help is much appreciated.
I hope I have done this cut-paste right this time. As you can see from below, I still see the output from outside the Protestant canon. There were 137 results in 133 verses before I added "WITHIN {Milestone <Bible Gen-Mal>}" The number of results didn't change after I included this extra filter within quotes. So I must be doing something wrong.
When I scrolled through the results, I did notice that some verses didn't have the ESV version (this was even before the filer given in quotes above). Does that mean that these verses don't belong to Gen-Mal?
If so, how do I find the Protestant Canon equivalent version of some of the verses in the Septuagint such as 1 Kgdms, 2 Kgdms etc that also have a ESV version attached to it? Is there a way to map it automatically before outputting the results. Maybe, I am getting ahead of myself here.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all very much.
There were 137 results in 133 verses before I added "WITHIN {Milestone <Bible Gen-Mal>}" The number of results didn't change after I included this extra filter within quotes. So I must be doing something wrong.
Strange - with the same filter, my search shows up just 124 results
Yes, that is what it means.
If so, how do I find the Protestant Canon equivalent version of some of the verses in the Septuagint such as 1 Kgdms, 2 Kgdms etc that also have a ESV version attached to it? Is there a way to map it automatically before outputting the results.
If you hover your cursor over the reference, it will show the rendering in your preferred Bible. Clicking it will open that Bible to that verse
Does this help at all?
I hope I have done this cut-paste right this time. As you can see from below, I still see the output from outside the Protestant canon. T
Try it with {Milestone <BibleESV Gen-Mal>} (to compare with ESV 'canon').
The output of the Search uses the 'canon' of the bible searched, and it can't be mapped for Print/Export. Click the highlighted result in the ESV bible to see the mapping.
Thank you as always. You are awesome with your help. It works.
Thanks,
Thank you, Dave, for you patience in hearing back from me. Your help is much appreciated.
