L4 layouts--how to create them without content

I'm slowly learning how to use Logos 4 (on a Mac), and one of the areas I'm confused about is layouts. I understand the concept of saving layouts, but as far as I can tell, my layout saves not only the arrangement of tabs and tiles but also the content of those tabs and tiles.

For example, I was studying Proverbs 8, got everything arranged as I wanted, and saved the layout. A few days later, I was studying Proverbs 11 and wanted to apply the layout I had saved when I was working on Proverbs 8. When I clicked on that saved layout, Proverbs 11 went away and I was back to Proverbs 8.

In other software I use (Adobe Photoshop, for instance), there's the concept of creating workspaces so that window and palette positions are saved, but those saved workspaces can be applied to any content. Is there a way to create a blank layout that I can apply to my current study topic? Or do I need to open a layout and then change the passage?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Mark Smith

Is there a way to create a blank layout that I can apply to my current study topic?

No there isn't. Layouts always include content in Logos 4, at least at this time.

You could make this as a suggestion in the Suggestion forum.

Or do I need to open a layout and then change the passage?

That would be the way to do it. Many of us have set up layouts for various types of studies and when we want to do that kind of study we switch layouts and start with what we last saved, changing it as needed.

Dan Butcher

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146109#Comment_146109

Mark, thanks for the quick reply!

Now that I know what the workflow needs to be, my time in Logos 4 will be much less frustrating!

I will make a suggestion for blank layouts.

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146118#Comment_146118

Mark, thanks for the quick reply!

Now that I know what the workflow needs to be, my time in Logos 4 will be much less frustrating!

I will make a suggestion for blank layouts.

Something I usually do is save additional layouts for a specific passage or study I am doing. The layout is essentially the same resources as say my "master" study layout, but focused on the specific passage I am working with.

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146148#Comment_146148

Something I usually do is save additional layouts for a specific passage or study I am doing. The layout is essentially the same resources as say my "master" study layout, but focused on the specific passage I am working with.

I use this same method, but I sometimes wish I could have a master template that would control all my layouts. This way when I decide my layouts need a new panel/pane/window, I can change all layouts at once.

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146247#Comment_146247

I use this same method, but I sometimes wish I could have a master template that would control all my layouts. This way when I decide my layouts need a new panel/pane/window, I can change all layouts at once.

That would be a nice feature[Y]

Jonathan Burke

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146276#Comment_146276

Dan, your experience is precisely why I stopped using layouts. Starting from a new guide or search does what I want. It would be more convenient to use layouts if they were either blank or context based.

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/146321#Comment_146321

I find the layouts feature very useful. It took some time to develop some layouts to accomodate good workflow processes; but I have found the feature to be very useable. If you have not done so, I suggest reviewing the link to the wiki page. In addition to the information on the page, there are some links to some videos that are helpful.

http://wiki.logos.com/Layouts