Favorite Wordsearch Features
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Is there a way to make each verse of the Bible on one line instead of a paragraph?
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Mike
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Danny Jenkins said:
Is there a way to make each verse of the Bible on one line instead of a paragraph?
Yes - try experimenting with the One verse per line in the Bible Text Only visual filter for the resource
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Yes, that is what I wanted. Thanks so much.
Danny
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I really like how you help us get acclimated to the changes. I am going to be reading and looking for your insights during my time here. Bless you brother.
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Jimmy Wren said:
When reading and following hyper-links it is NOT always easy to return to your original place of reading.
Hi Jimmy and welcome to the Logos Community.
I know very little about Wordsearch but I do know that the wonderful ability of the Logos Software to instantly jump to links can be a mixed blessing until you discover this little facility which I use all the time.
Here I have clicked on the three dot dropdown on the ESV panel in my layout and gone to 'Send Hyperlinks Here'
When I click on that the Bible Tab has a Target Icon Added to it.
Now any hyperlink in any bible will open in this panel in this translation of the Bible and the main panel will remain at the place I am reading.
I real life I float a panel on my second monitor that contains the target version of the bible so my eyes alway know wher to go to see the results of a link.
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Mike
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Hi Jimmy - and welcome to the forums
Jimmy Wren said:When reading and following hyper-links it is NOT always easy to return to your original place of reading. With the highlighting you never lost your place
How did that work? Didn't following a hyper-link change the current verse (and hence the highlight)?
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It may help to right click your preferred Bible and "Duplicate" then set the duplicate to "send hyperlinks here" while keeping your original Bible set to your link set A (if using links)
Just remember not to link the hyperlink target window to the same linkset as your primary Bible.
Morris Proctor does a wonderful Cross reference layout in the quickstart video series using this set up0 -
Graham Criddle said:
How did that work? Didn't following a hyper-link change the current verse (and hence the highlight)?
Graham, in WS the active verse was always highlighted in yellow and as you moved verses the highlight moved as well. That is what Jimmy is referring to.
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Scott E. Mahle said:
Unfortunately, the only way to do it is to edit the title in the library. I’ve accomplished this over many years (nearly 2000 bible commentaries now) but I’m sure the initial change was several hundred like you. It really doesn’t take as long as one might think as long as you remain focused on the goal. The end result is an organized library and the commentary series shown on the tabs and within the passage guide.
I filtered by series and added all my series prefixes like NAC: to the user title. I then filtered by title and added the book names like 1 Corinthians to the series prefix. It took a while to fill in some of the series that used unique title for the book volumes, but it worked well.
It changes my passage guide from this:
To this:
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The Flanary's said:
That feature in Word looks great, I would still love to see a full "zipscript" though. Ive used it tons on social media, messaging and emails.
I also loved the search in Wordsearch 12, but will withold further comment until I'm better acquainted with LogosHi, Flanary's, I'm sure by now you have found the answer to your thought about Zipscript, but just in case I thought I would give you my experience. I use Zipscript all the time. Since it is a separate software I've loaded to my computer it loads up each time I turn on or reboot my computer. I've set Alt-Z as my Hotkey and it works beautifully in Word, Gmail, etc. wherever I want to use it.
Blessings,
BroJames
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James H. Schafer said:
Hi, Flanary's, I'm sure by now you have found the answer to your thought about Zipscript, but just in case I thought I would give you my experience. I use Zipscript all the time. Since it is a separate software I've loaded to my computer it loads up each time I turn on or reboot my computer. I've set Alt-Z as my Hotkey and it works beautifully in Word, Gmail, etc. wherever I want to use it.
Blessings,
BroJames
Good thought. I have mine hotkeyed to F9, but hadn't considered checking out the file setup. I guess I assumed ir was WS data dependent. Thanks for the tip
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Thank you so much for the help, John. I'll start doing that right away.
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How did you edit the titles? I can't seem to make any changes to their names.
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depdad said:
How did you edit the titles? I can't seem to make any changes to their names.
In the library, click on the information button (an i with a circle around it as shown in the upper right corner of the screenshot) then click on the pencil beside the title to change it.
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Or you can do the same from the resource.
Open the panel menu - three dots icon and open the Information pane
Then you can edit either the full title or the abbreviated title of the resource.
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By far the "instant verse study" was my favorite. I would be on a verse and wanted more information so I would highlight the verse and click on the instant verse icon, my library would show up and allow me to select the sections then it would do the search and I could then open up the Wordsearch word processor and click and paste, the entire search would now be available for me to go through, edit, add, comment on any part, highlight etc, it had a integrated word processor, then I could save the study for future reference. And read or make changes as I saw fit. I have a lot of studies saved into the word processor that I don't want to go through all that time and effort to redo, it would be nice if that part of Wordsearch could transfer into Logos.
I have jumped into Logos with both feet, purchased a Platinum package, listened to MP Seminars 3, training videos about 8 times each...and appreciate all that Logos has/is doing to make this unexpected change as seamless as possible. Thank You and God bless
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Yes, that was my favorite feature as well. Logos has committed to bringing in our personal documents from WordSearch.
Carla
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Hello
The features that I find most useful in WORDsearch are:
1. When I highlight an individual verse in one of my Bibles (I have at least 10-15 showing so I can click from translation/paraphrase to another) then all my most-used commentaries, including Adam Clark, Living Commentary by Andrew Wommack, Open Your Bible Commentary Page by Page Old & New Testament, Matthew Henry's Concise, Jamieson-Fausett-Brow, J Vernon McGee's Thru The Bible and the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge by Reuben Archer Torrey also highlight the same verse.
This is a very useful tool when I am doing my own Bible readings.and preparing the Sunday talks, that in 'normal' times I give to our Anglican church plant.
2. The ability to highlight either Biblical text, from whichever of my Bibles I believe gives the clearest rendering of the verses as well from other books in my WORDsearch collection and paste them into my Microsoft WORD script (I used to work in radio) for my Sunday talk or for use in a Bible study.
I haven't found these, so far, in LOGOS and therefore I am still mainly using WORDsearch when I need these functions.
Blessings
Peter
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J Peter Wilson said:
1. When I highlight an individual verse in one of my Bibles (I have at least 10-15 showing so I can click from translation/paraphrase to another) then all my most-used commentaries, including Adam Clark, Living Commentary by Andrew Wommack, Open Your Bible Commentary Page by Page Old & New Testament, Matthew Henry's Concise, Jamieson-Fausett-Brow, J Vernon McGee's Thru The Bible and the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge by Reuben Archer Torrey also highlight the same verse.
Just checking exactly what you mean here.
- Are you clicking a verse to make it "active"
- Are you applying an actual highlight?
- Are you moving to that place in a Bible?
Depending on which you mean, Logos should be able to do it
J Peter Wilson said:2. The ability to highlight either Biblical text, from whichever of my Bibles I believe gives the clearest rendering of the verses as well from other books in my WORDsearch collection and paste them into my Microsoft WORD script (I used to work in radio) for my Sunday talk or for use in a Bible study.
You should simply be able to select a portion of text, copy it (using Ctrl/Cmd-C) and then paste it into Word. For more control over layout and formatting you can use the Copy Bible Verses Tool - https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015518272-Copy-Bible-Verses
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Hello Graham
Thanks for these suggestions.
I will try them out and see if I can get them to work.
It's like learning to use a new type of music radio software for the first time. It all comes down to getting the parameters right for how you wish to use the software and how you categorise the music you will be playing.
Blessings
Peter
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
3. I forgot how much I liked having the current live Bible verse highlighted until saw someone above mention it.
If a current verse highlight feature is added, please make it a user controlled option so if a user prefers not to use it the current verse highlight could be turned off.
Due to my particular vision needs I would not use this feature. Additional highlights beyond what I have already created would make reading more difficult for me. However, I respect the wishes of those who would like it. Making this an optional feature which could be turned on or off would satisfy any preference.
If this is done, please add this option to Program Settings or to the Visual Filters drop down list rather than adding a potentially distracting icon to an already full Resource Panel Toolbar.
Thank you
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I would really appreciate if you could update InstaVerse. It is a small program that was owned by WordSearch. It has not been updated in years and does not play well with Windows 10. It is a stand alone program that allows you to paste a Bible passage into any program by typing the reference and then using a hotkey. It is so much quicker than cut and paste. Also it used to open a pop up window when you hovered over a Bible reference in any program. This amazing part of InstaVerse does not work any longer. The only way I can get instaVerse to work in Windows 10 is to install it before each use. I must uninstall it after each use or it will not work the next time I boot up my computer.
The next time I buy a new computer I am afraid that all will be lost! I must have WordSearch installed on the computer to use any other Bible than the 2 that came with the original program. The program only uses Bibles that are installed by WordSearch.
I would gladly pay extra money for this program. It saves so much time in research (by bring up the reference in a separate popup window) and writing (instantly inserting a Bible passage with only the reference).
It is an orphan program that nobody seems to care about. Hopefully FaithLife will see the value in it and use their resources to bring it up to date. Thank you!
P.S. Please keep it a stand alone program so that it can be used with Microsoft Word, the internet etc.
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James Mashburn said:
I would really appreciate if you could update InstaVerse
Greetings James and welcome to the Forum Community
I find this facility useful on my Mac devices
Does Windows have anything similar?
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Mike
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Mike Binks said:
Does Windows have anything similar?
Yes - using the (unsupported) Smart Tags feature - https://wiki.logos.com/Smart_Tags
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At the web level, the functionality of InstaVerse can be duplicated with Faithlife RefTagger, but it requires the website to enable it.
Dr. Nathan Parker
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User Books was a great tool. I used it to work on a variety of books I am writing as an author. I know Logos has something similar but, I just found Wordsearch more manageable to use. However, I do plan to see what Logos has.
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Darnell L. Hope Sr. said:
However, I do plan to see what Logos has.
Logos Wiki has links (LT = Logos Training, VT = Verbum Training)
Personal Book creation & updating uses the same process in Logos & Verbum.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Darnell L. Hope Sr. said:
User Books was a great tool. I used it to work on a variety of books I am writing as an author. I know Logos has something similar but, I just found Wordsearch more manageable to use. However, I do plan to see what Logos has.
Hello Darnell. I think that Logos Personal Books is way ahead of the Wordsearch User Books. I had a number of issues with User Books and spoke to people at Wordsearch numerous times. User Books were not searchable so you needed to do a workaround if you wanted to be able to search them. My biggest issue though was that you were limited in the size of the book. It would fail if my book was too large so then I had to go back and break it down to smaller books. Definitely not what I wanted. Keep Smiling posted a link to a video that gives the basics of Personal Books in Logos. Personal Books are much more powerful than what you will see in that video. Make yourself acquainted with them and then play around with them. I think you will like them. It is one of my favorite features in Logos.
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Hi Phil Gons:
If my memory serves me well, I think in WS you can add pdf to the content.
To me, what makes Logos software top of line is the superb proximity search capabilities.
If there was a way to allow Logos 9 to be able to let pdf to be searched, in my opinion that would put the software light years ahead of other software.
Peace and Grace.
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Hamilton Ramos said:
If there was a way to allow Logos 9 to be able to let pdf to be searched, in my opinion that would put the software light years ahead of other software.
Thread => What is the status of being able to import PDF and ePub into Logos? includes:
The "technical" answer is that it's much, much simpler to extract the text from a DOCX file (which is based on XML, an open standard), than a PDF file. This article is a great overview of some of the many problems you will encounter when attempting to do so: https://filingdb.com/b/pdf-text-extraction
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Thanks KS4J:
If I am not mistaken someone mentioned using notes by importing the pdf content to it.
Do you know if that is feasible? are notes in L9 searchable using proximity search?
what about the option of importing webarchive files (saves from Safari browser in Mac)?
Many times there is interesting / useful information from the web, that is unretrievable after a while, if unable to use proximity search to get to the particular location for the info.
Any ideas?
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Yes! Absolutely!
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I completely agree with your comments. I am so disappointed that Lifeway/Faithlife made the decision forcing us into LOGOS Bible software. Those of us that used WordSearch did so because we like that platform and the fact that it was built for the local pastor and preacher. If we wanted to use LOGOS we would have purchased that software. Now thousands of us are left with no alternative because those living in theological towers think they know what is best for those of us in the local church.
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Give us back the option to use WordSearch. If the 1000's of pastors that invested in building their WordSearch libraries had wanted LOGOS, they would have bought LOGOS and not WordSearch. Why add this burden to pastors that are in the midst of cultural chaos and a covid pandemic? LOGOS and WordSearch existed separately and gave pastors a choice according to their needs and preferences. It is pointless to have tell you what we want to see integrated or added to LOGOS when we had a wonderful tool at our disposal in WordSearch.
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Jeff LaBorg said:
Give us back the option to use WordSearch
No one has taken away your ability to use WordSearch. You may continue to use it until you move to an incompatible operating system. You simply have the option to use Logos starting anytime from now until WordSearch fails due to operating system or hardware failures.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Jeff LaBorg said:
Now thousands of us are left with no alternative because those living in theological towers think they know what is best for those of us in the local church.
Do we really need such unfounded accusations? Wordsearch failed in the marketplace. Be glad that it was sold so that you aren't simply waiting for the value to disappear as has occurred with some other Bible softwares. You are not forced to switch immediately, you are simply given the opportunity to retain your value when and if you need to switch software.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Jeff LaBorg said:
Give us back the option to use WordSearch. If the 1000's of pastors that invested in building their WordSearch libraries had wanted LOGOS, they would have bought LOGOS and not WordSearch. Why add this burden to pastors that are in the midst of cultural chaos and a covid pandemic? LOGOS and WordSearch existed separately and gave pastors a choice according to their needs and preferences. It is pointless to have tell you what we want to see integrated or added to LOGOS when we had a wonderful tool at our disposal in WordSearch.
Jeff I also had a large Wordsearch library even though I have a large Logos library as well. I do agree that Wordsearch should have given its customers the option of their input. Wordsearch was a good program but it did have its limitations and realistically its day was over. Some of the functions did not work as they were intended to. Wordsearch would have had to do a major overhaul in order to provide us with a decent upgrade. They were not willing to make that investment. I think that if we were given the option of voting on which compatible program to move to the majority of us would have chosen Logos. Yes there is a large learning curve in making the transition but I have found it to be well worth the investment both in terms of time and cost. I can use as little or as much of the computing power of Logos as I want and most days I don't use a lot of it. But when I need it I know that it is there and if I have problems figuring something out I can come to the forums and multiple Logos users are more than happy to help me out with that. Wordsearch disabled their forum features a number a years ago and so if I had a problem with a Wordsearch feature I only had Wordsearch employees to turn to. I could never figure out why Wordsearch did that. Yes there were a couple of Wordsearch forums set up by individual users but they were not very active. What I have found is the more I use Logos the more I appreciate what I can do with it. I am also thankful that now I have the majority of my digital resources in one library where I can utilize them together. My advice would be to continue to use Wordsearch as long as you have access to it while at the same time develop your skills with Logos. If I had the choice of Logos or Wordsearch I would have chosen Logos hands down. God bless you as you study His Word and seek to serve Him.
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One of the things I thought was really nice in Wordsearch that I've missed in Logos is the verse picker navigation tool for Bibles and other resources with Bible indexes. Unlike the similar Logos navigation box, you could click the down arrow and drill down as far as verse number level with your mouse - no need to type (although you could if you wanted to).
A similar control was used in Dictionary/Headword type resources, and the drop-down would be populated with an alphabetical list of the headword entries. For multi-index resources, Logos offers a drop-down on click to select which index to navigate by. Wordsearch solved that by providing a second drop-down of available indexes, which would drive the content of the navigation control:
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What are your favorite Wordsearch features? What would you like to see us add to or improve in Logos?
Now that my old resources are (mostly) over into Logos, arguably the biggest thing I miss from Wordsearch is the the verse picker navigation control on Bibles and other resources with Bible indexes. You could click the drop-down arrow on the control to drill down thru book-chpt-verse screens to change your location without having to type (although you could type if you wanted).
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They had something similar for Dictionary/Headword type resources, where the drop-down would be populated with an alphabetical list of the headword entries. For multi-index resources, Logos provides a drop-down (on click) for selecting the index to navigate by in its similar but type-only box. Wordsearch solved that multi-index problem by providing a 2nd drop-down for selecting the index, which would drive the content of the navigation control, so you could still drop down the navigation control to select an entry from its list, based on the index selected.
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I must say that this click-down feature in WORDsearch from Bible book to Chapter to verse was/is very helpful.
I have found in LOGOS that I have to type in the book, chapter & verse that I am wanting to read in various Bible versions.
That facility together with the 'Back' & 'Forward' arrows on the bar at the top of the WORDsearch page were/are a very useful facility. I haven't found anything similar in LOGOS yet.
I trust that this helps.
Peter
J Peter Wilson
Bridlington, East Riding of Yorkshire, England/UK
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J Peter Wilson said:
I must say that this click-down feature in WORDsearch from Bible book to Chapter to verse was/is very helpful.
Mobile App has Selector: Book, Chapter, Verse next to location, which would be an appreciated addition so Please Vote:
J Peter Wilson said:I have found in LOGOS that I have to type in the book, chapter & verse that I am wanting to read in various Bible versions.
Thankful for Bible Book Abbreviations
Entering Abbreviation shows verse & pericopes for location selection (can use period between chapter & verse) (verse default is 1)
J Peter Wilson said:That facility together with the 'Back' & 'Forward' arrows on the bar at the top of the WORDsearch page were/are a very useful facility. I haven't found anything similar in LOGOS yet.
Locator Bar in Logos Tab has (Back) < > (Forward) along with History drop down
Tools => History has Tab Navigation list (can click an entry to open Tab to a previous location)
Keep Smiling [:)]
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MJ. Smith said:
Do we really need such unfounded accusations? Wordsearch failed in the marketplace. Be glad that it was sold so that you aren't simply waiting for the value to disappear as has occurred with some other Bible softwares. You are not forced to switch immediately, you are simply given the opportunity to retain your value when and if you need to switch software.
MJ. Smith --- me thinks your reply was a bit terse...
I would like to think people can share their frustrations on here without someone brow-beating them? Are we not all learning or does one have to be on the same page as someone else in order to post on here?
As I understand things, we all make mistakes... that's how learning takes place.... we make a mistake and ask... and learn.
imho.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
MJ. Smith --- me thinks your reply was a bit terse...
I have often been accused of being terse - why say twice what I can say once - and precise. Share justified frustrations freely but expect me to waste my time with frustrations built on misunderstandings -- assume I will try to alleviate the frustration with reality.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Jeff LaBorg:
Give us back the option to use WordSearchNow thousands of us are left with no alternative because those living in theological towers think they know what is best for those of us in the local church.
We 'xnmen' or 'other types of adam' need to be careful with our words. Especially when we are frustrated.
xnman said:MJ. Smith --- me thinks your reply was a bit terse...
I would like to think people can share their frustrations on here without someone brow-beating them? Are we not all learning or does one have to be on the same page as someone else in order to post on here?
Truth is important.
The truth is that nothing has stopped anyone using Wordsearch other than user error in changing the system that they run the program on.
The truth is that when one was using Wordsearch there were at least three alternatives that one could have used.
The truth is that when eventually Wordsearch ceases to work there are still at least two alternatives that can be used.
The truth is that had the Wordsearch company gone to the wall, shut down its servers, and disappeared into the mist then all its users would really have been forced to make a choice which of the alternatives to pay for. The way things have happened is that now there is one of those alternatives that Wordsearch users have a free leg up on.
Folks are always welcome to vent pretty much any frustration about the software, its resources, and its functions however when chaps misrepresent the situation, or fail in their understanding of the 'real' situation, then it is the xnman's duty to point out the error. Always with the caveat that they may be wrong themselves and stand to be corrected.
I fail to discern a verifiable true fact in Jeff's post other than he that he agrees with some undefined previous submission.
tootle pip
Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
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It doesn't hurt to be kind.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
It doesn't hurt to be kind.
If you think that principle was violated, I apologize for your misunderstanding of my intent - I obviously failed to communicate clearly.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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terse is a form of smart mouth. It's sometimes like a verbal slap. It is never kind.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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sub-thread reported as inappropriate. While I stand by my original post I apologize for my further participation.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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