Open Ancient Christian Devotional to today's date

Milkman
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edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is there a way to have any of the lectionaries open to the current date? For example. I think we are in Cycle A. Typical evangelical query. "I think." however, I'm trying to change that personally and break out of a somewhat rigid evangelical/baptist way of thinking about lectionaries etc. 

Please no more "this guys is turning into a heretic or falling from grace" comments. I'm simply looking for a deeper walk with the Lord.

Also, if anyone could give me some helpful ideas on reading thru lectionaries I would much appreciate it.

one more question: Is the lectio divina like lectionary readings?

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  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm not a big lectionary user but would opening a lectionary and ACD together and then linking them work?

    I believe a lectionary opens to the current date/cycle or has a today function

    I could be wrong though

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭

    It sort of works that way but only if I have the Revised CL "Daily" Readings open with the ACD. I can save that layout, but when I re-open it, it doesn't open to current date. 

    With both Linked they do scroll together though. 

    Maybe I'll just have to keep up with the readings and not worry about my question. How hard is it to go to your books and go to the date you're on? I think I'm getting spoiled and dare I say lazy...

    thanks.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭✭

    Hmmm.  Today is nutty but I'll try to play around with this later.  I was thinking if you configure the lectionary layout the way you want it, then the next time you click on your lectionary card it will open to the correct date and sync everything.

    Hopefully a lectionary power user chimes in soon

  • Milkman said:

    Is there a way to have any of the lectionaries open to the current date?

    Yes, command: open lectionary to today

    Milkman said:

    For example. I think we are in Cycle A.

    Revised Common Lectionary (RCL) Daily Readings includes Years A, B, & C. Sun 20 Sep 2020 is in Year A, which has "Proper 20 Sun A" milestone that is in Ancient Christian Devotional Series (3 vols.) so can use command open ancient to proper 20 sun a (or link to RCL that needs navigation in RCL to Sunday for location change in Ancient Christian Calendar Devotional)

    Command: open lectionary to proper 20 sun a

    Milkman said:

    one more question: Is the lectio divina like lectionary readings?

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  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭

    Yep, that works. Appreciate it. I'll look at that book as well. Thanks for your help.

  • Milkman
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  • Milkman said:

    One more question. What does Proper 20 mean?

    Lectionary season with number of week. Hoping a power lectionary user can explain Proper numbering from 6 to 28.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,783

    Milkman said:

    What does Proper 20 mean?

    Because of different traditions, different denominations call the weeks in ordinary time by different names ... and have done so for at least 500 years. They have used different names even when using the same lectionary.

    First, ordinary time is any time that is not part of a special season i.e. is not Advent, Christmas, Lent, Triduum, Easter. It comes in two parts: after Christmas and before Lent AND after Pentecost and before Advent. Some groups treat the two parts separately, others number them continuously.

    The upcoming Sunday in Western calendars is the start of week Proper 21, Ordinary 26, or Pentecost 17.

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,459

    MJ. Smith said:

    The upcoming Sunday in Western calendars is the start of week Proper 21, Ordinary 26, or Pentecost 17.

    Dear Lectionary Lady

    Because my denomination (s workers) can't seem to, collectively, work out which tradition they are following; please could you point me at the main lectionaries that use the numbering systems.

    I have the RCL which uses Proper.

    What would have

    Ordinary?

    Pentecost?

    Thanks

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,783

    Contemporary usage which I know only for the core denominations:

    Ordinary Time is standard Catholic usage

    After Pentecost OR Ordinary Time appear to both exist in Anglican usage ... the former perhaps a bit more common; After Pentecost is Lutheran

    After Trinity is also in use but less common

    Proper is UCC and perhaps Methodist?

    Sorry but I've spent my time learning to convert between the schemes rather than who uses the scheme.

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,179

    MJ. Smith said:

    After Trinity is also in use but less common

    We use it in the protestant church year in Germany, possibly also Lutherans elsewhere. And it seems the Church of England uses it. So next Sunday, Sept 27th, 2020 is the 16th after Trinity. 

    EDIT: the BCP1928 Lectionary in Logos/Verbum has After Trinity counting /EDIT

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,783

    At least I've never struggled to convert from After Pentecost to After Trinity (or the reverse) ... were they all so simple ... and I didn't even mention Kingdomtide which I can rarely convert in my head.

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  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    Ordinary Time is standard Catholic usage

    Although after Pentecost is also used (but not in any Catholic lectionaries presently offered by FL).

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  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭✭

    Mattillo said:

    Hmmm.  Today is nutty but I'll try to play around with this later.  I was thinking if you configure the lectionary layout the way you want it, then the next time you click on your lectionary card it will open to the correct date and sync everything.

    Hopefully a lectionary power user chimes in soon

    I tested it today and it works.  I have a lectionary card on my dashboard and modified it to include the ACD.  When I click that card it opens the lectionary and commentary to today's date.  So in short, just modify your lectionary home page layout and it'll work great.  KS4J's stuff works too

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,179

    NB.Mick said:

    MJ. Smith said:

    After Trinity is also in use but less common

    We use it in the protestant church year in Germany, possibly also Lutherans elsewhere. And it seems the Church of England uses it. So next Sunday, Sept 27th, 2020 is the 16th after Trinity. 

    EDIT: the BCP1928 Lectionary in Logos/Verbum has After Trinity counting /EDIT

    And - I just see this as today a number of lectionary resources downloaded with a new update, but I've no idea what changed contentwise - of course the one-year Lutheran lectionary in Logos also counts After Trinity, whereas the three-year version is adapted to RCL and counts Propers 

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile