Levels of Spirituality
Hi all - I wanted to research what different models there were for spirituality in Christendom. As a Protestant evangelical, i'm particularly interested in these areas (and perhaps if I had read all of Dallas Willard's books, I might already have an answer!).
I was looking for something that might begin with basic disciplines let's say, Bible reading prayer, then with submission, fasting and other levels perhaps culminating with Rom 9:3, loving so deeply so as to give one's life for others. Or any similar variant that might show people there's much more depth to spirituality than what we currently have. I could try to develop something but people must have thought about this before me.
I tried searching in my Library search for "levels WITHIN 2 WORDS (spiritual, spirituality)" but didn't come up with anything interesting.
Any other ideas how this theme could be explored or resources that might help?
Thank you!
Paul
P.S. This was one useful resource I found:
Willard: “Throughout church history the practice of the full panoply of spiritual disciplines has been a key to spiritual growth. These “disciplines” are viewed from different perspectives. One way is to view them as a threefold unity: inward disciplines (meditation, prayer, fasting, study), outward disciplines (simplicity, solitude, submission, service), and corporate disciplines (confession, worship, guidance, celebration). Another way is to view them is from a twofold opposite perspective: disciplines of abstinence (solitude, silence, fasting, frugality, chastity, secrecy, sacrifice) and disciplines of engagement (study, worship, celebration, service, prayer, fellowship, confession, submission).”
Michael J. Wilkins, Matthew (The NIV Application Commentary; Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House, 2004), 286.
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Have you considered monastic works like philokalia?
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The steps of St. John Climacus Ladder of Divine Ascent is what first came to my mind. Less obvious is St. Teresa of Avila's The Way of Perfection. I'd look through Evelyn Underhill to tease out a longer bibliography.
but I find the way you word your question rather difficult to answer as if you know where to find them, the spiritual disciplines are very much alive both in intentional living communities and in individual homes with weekly, monthly, or occasional group support. So without knowing your specific background I don't have a clue as to what is "more depth than what we currently have". I feel a bit like new comers to a meditation group in the early 1970's who were taken aback when the first thing they were asked to read was The Little Prince, followed by The Way of the Pilgrim, . . . If you followed along you discovered it made perfect sense ... if you balked at the trivial, you were not yet ready ....Paul Chatfield said:Or any similar variant that might show people there's much more depth to spirituality than what we currently have.
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Paul Chatfield said:I wanted to research what different models there were for spirituality in Christendom.
As a Protestant evangelical myself who is doing doctoral work in discipleship, can I suggest you expand your frame of reference beyond "levels" to incorporate "process". I believe you will find anywhere from 5 (seeker, believer, worker, leader, multiplier) to 26 (-13 [a vague awareness of the divine] to +13 [a multiplier who makes disciples who make disciples]) "levels" in the literature. You may also want to explore "spiritual formation", "spiritual disciplines", "spiritual practices", "spiritual transformation"
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Hmmm.
At the risk of sounding curmudgeonly and accusatory, are you going to examine false-but-claims-to-be-true spirituality? HERE, for example, is one take on that phenomenon.
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David,
I rather like looking at that graphic, but it would be more fun without people in the way of the words. Where did that come from?
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TCBlack said:
David,
I rather like looking at that graphic, but it would be more fun without people in the way of the words. Where did that come from?
https://www.goodsoil.com/blog/assessing-unbelievers-gospel-understanding/
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Thank you. This is a new resource to me. I'll see what I can use of it.
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Mattillo said:TCBlack said:
David,
I rather like looking at that graphic, but it would be more fun without people in the way of the words. Where did that come from?
https://www.goodsoil.com/blog/assessing-unbelievers-gospel-understanding/
Thank you for sharing the link; I am familiar with goodsoil but it has been a while since I've looked at their site .
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So much of any response to this will have the author's theological understanding informing it. As a Lutheran, I view this as living out the life of the Baptized. As Luther wrote in his Small Catechism:
What does such baptizing with water indicate?
It indicates that the Old Adam in us should by daily contrition and repentance be drowned and die with all sins and evil desires, and that a new man should daily emerge and arise to live before God in righteousness and purity forever.
Luther, M. (n.d.). Small Catechism (1986).And so I hate the idea of various levels of "spirituality", since before God, is it just continually dying and rising with Christ. Of course, for our neighbor who needs things, we certainly may (and I hope do) advance in recognizing both their physical needs and their needs for a savior - and are doing it with listening so that what we say makes sense. There are many spiritual gifts - but one spirit. So catalogues of different spiritual disciplines are good - and indeed useful so you can see where the spirit may be working, but I have an almost allergic reaction to talk of levels. And from my knowledge of Church History, I know that one of the first fights the Church had was with Gnostics who said they were the truly spiritual ones...
Personally, I use Logos to feed me in this respect by reading various spiritual writings. I just finished re-reading Athanasius's Life of Antony. Part of me is thinking a re-read of Bo Giertz's Hammer of God or Bonhoeffer's Life Together next. Or maybe something new. Arndt has been waiting patiently for a while...
In short, I wouldn't worry about levels. Paths, sure. Diciplines? yeah. But Rom 14:1-4 always applies. Some ways will seem utterly odd and useless to you - and that is ok. As you live your life, you may see them useful to others - or even you at a different point.
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You could also try searches using the word "stages" -- since a lot of work has been done on stages of development in faith. I'm thinking of James Fowler's Stages of Faith (not in Logos but should be), and others who have built on his work. There's one book Faithlife does carry in ebook format that uses this theory: The Faith of Jesus: The Jesus of History and the Stages of Faith by Richard W. Kropf. M. Scott Peck also discusses spiritual growth in The Road Less Traveled (also not in Logos). And Richard Rohr talks about nine levels of spiritual growth or stages of consciousness. Only one of Rohr's books, The Divine Dance, is on Faithlife Ebooks, but he doesn't discuss this model in there.
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Now is a time to pray for discernment, for sure. God help us all.
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JRS said:
At the risk of sounding curmudgeonly and accusatory, are you going to examine false-but-claims-to-be-true spirituality?
My browser doesn't do google. But I'm just guessing your point might be unenthused with my trumpet on the corner of Main and 1st?
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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It seems to me that one danger of a chart like this is it becomes easy to reduce different denominations to the -8 category. Thankfully the FL forums have largely been free of that.
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Denise said:
My browser doesn't do google.
Sorry, Denise. AFIK, it can only be found on YouTube. It is a video/podcast from Fighting for the Faith (Chris Rosebrough) and is entitled, "Does Todd White Glow in the Dark?".
N.B.: If you do decide to break down and listen to Rosebrough's take on the spirituality of TW, be sure to turn down the sound for the first 5 seconds!
ps. Main and 1st, eh? I'll meet you there later today - I'll be the one with the tambourine, knee cymbals, kazoo, and multi-neon-colored frizzy wig.
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JRS said:
Main and 1st, eh? I'll meet you there later today - I'll be the one with the tambourine, knee cymbals, kazoo, and multi-neon-colored frizzy wig.
Thank you for the additional.
Regarding our 'meeting', Jesus didn't authorize tambourines or cymbals for the Pharisee pat-on-the-backs. Kazoos are probably ok (modern Christianity, you know). The wig is probably ok too, since you're a guy (careful, careful, if you're from Corinth). Smiling.
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