L9 PERFORMANCE: Takes 13-15 seconds to switch to already open Program Settings tab

Rosie Perera
Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Every time I switch to activate my Program Settings tab, it takes 13-15 seconds.

Important info: I have hundreds if not thousands of hidden resources, which are of course listed in Program Settings. But Logos shouldn't have to go through all of those every time I re-activate the tab if nothing has happened in the intervening moments that would hide more resources.

Here's my log file:

6201.Logos.log

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,878

    Logs don't show a definite activation of Settings from a tab. Upload a log showing you opening Settings from the Tools menu. You can do this few times

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,999

    Important info: I have hundreds if not thousands of hidden resources

    That listbox is probably rendered without virtualisation, which is causing the performance issue. (Logs not needed.)

    There's a case for this performance bug; I've added a link to this thread.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭

    I have stated before that Logos is a memory hog meaning it takes memory on the pc to make logos work fast.

    If you have 8 gig of ram - Logos will most likely be slow, especially if you have other programs open, i.e. a browser, etc. Every program open takes some resources to run. Ram is the area where the programs reside and do their stuff.

    16 gig of ram is becoming the defacto standard now for running windows and some programs. Ram memory is not that expensive.

    2nd thing is hard drive.  If you  are running 16 gig or more of ram then consider going to solid state drive (ssd)  and you will see your system fly on hyper speed. 

    --- IMHO  [8-|]

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    xnman said:

    I have stated before that Logos is a memory hog meaning it takes memory on the pc to make logos work fast.

    If you have 8 gig of ram - Logos will most likely be slow, especially if you have other programs open, i.e. a browser, etc. Every program open takes some resources to run. Ram is the area where the programs reside and do their stuff.

    16 gig of ram is becoming the defacto standard now for running windows and some programs. Ram memory is not that expensive.

    2nd thing is hard drive.  If you  are running 16 gig or more of ram then consider going to solid state drive (ssd)  and you will see your system fly on hyper speed. 

    System resources are not the issue in my case for this particular issue. I have a beast of a machine, newly purchased this year.

    I have 64 GB of RAM.

    I have Logos installed on a 2 TB SSD drive.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,878

    xnman said:

    If you have 8 gig of ram - Logos will most likely be slow, especially if you have other programs open, i.e. a browser, etc

    16 GB RAM would be advisable, but my 8 GB RAM + SSD + i5 results in good performance from 2x Logos + 2x Browser instances and switching Windows User Accounts is fast.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭

    And I remember an IBM workstation with 1 meg of ram.... with a 10 meg hdd ... and me thinking how would anyone ever use up all that machine?   Show to go you what I know... lol.

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭

    I have 64 GB of RAM

    What's your PC doing? Solving deepfake? solving the location of the Ark? Calculating the second advent? lol [:P]

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    mike said:

    I have 64 GB of RAM

    What's your PC doing? Solving deepfake? solving the location of the Ark? Calculating the second advent? lol Stick out tongue

    Running on average 25 programs at the same time, as I frequently do. Logos is the biggest memory hog of them all, but I also usually have some very large subset of Outlook, Word, Excel, Money, PowerPoint, Photoshop, Audition, Premiere, Acrobat, Firefox, Zoom, Evernote, ACDSee, Kindle, FTP, Spotify, Family Tree Maker, Skype, TreePad, EPSON Scan, Sublime Text, Anagram Artist, Zyzzyva, ABBYY Screenshot Reader, Windows Media Player, File Explorer, DeskPins, Movie Collector, SnagIt, Camtasia, and several others running at the same time, switching back and forth between them. Not to mention all the background processes (like Dropbox, my anti-virus software, my password manager, PureText, etc.)

    That and the fact that I rarely reboot my machine -- pretty much only when Windows updates and I'm forced to reboot, or if something crashes Windows, which is rare these days -- mean that having gobs of memory is really nice.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,861

    mean that having gobs of memory is really nice.

    Sorry but I can't resist. [6] Do I remember correctly that a gob is a googolplex of terabytes? or was that googleplex? [;)]

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,409

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Zyzzyva

    Big Smile

    A friend of mine wrote that!

    Cool! You get extra points for having read my entire list of all my most commonly used software! [:)]