Zipscript is invaluable!
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That's weird.... in mine, there's a dropdown box right next to where I enter the passage. It remains with the version last selected from that box.
Just think, though, how great the LOGOS version of Zipscript will be when it's released!
#SeeingWithTheEyesOfFaith
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xnman said:
So I did find a faster way copy verses from Logos to my Word document. Maybe it's commonly used; I just discovered it.
- Enter the reference into the passage search field on your Bible in Logos
- Select the verses you want to copy (click-drag with your mouse)
- Press Ctrl+Alt+b
- Choose Copy and Paste
That's shorter than some other recommendations I've received.
I think there is even a quicker way. When you are in your word document, you can type CTRL+ALT B that will open the "Copy Bible Verses" window. Then type in the verse you want and choose "Copy and Paste."
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THIS IS WONDERFUL!!!!
Thank you Ronald Quick. Thank you!!!0 -
Mine is working correctly now...after a reboot of the computer...
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Mike Binks said:
whether this is a potential problem or an actual one John.
LOL! “Problem” is probably a bit overstated, but if that’s what it is, it’s admittedly a “first world problem”. I’d call it more of a nuisance/convenience thing. I currently have more than 300 resources of Type Bible in my library, and that’s after hiding well over 100 resources I knew I’d likely never use, such as Targum or NT papyrus fragments. The WS ZipScript tool had a simple drop-down list picker control (with scroll bar) to select the Bible you wanted the tool to pull the text from. I had about 60 Bibles in my WS library, and that was more than enough to scroll through to get to the handful that I actually used ZipScript for. I would have preferred if I could list the contents of a Collection or something in the picker instead of the entire library, because there were probably only a few versions I’d routinely be looking to quote a verse from.
Think of it as a tool to get content from your key resources when you’re doing something other than using your Bible study program (i.e. writing). It’s analogous to the relationship between a tool belt and a workshop. There’s plenty of work you do in your workshop, but there’s also a place for strapping on a toolbelt and taking your go-to tools with you elsewhere. You don’t strap all your tools on your hips to go do that, only the ones you use constantly. If you have to rummage through everything to get to the same three tools over and over, you’re doing something wrong. It’s great to have all your tools available in the workshop, but you don’t need all of them readily available everywhere you go.
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I tried to reply to this last night but don't see my reply here.
THANK YOU, Ronald Quick! That's exactly what I was looking for.
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ZipScript is working for me. Love that tool!
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Ronald Quick said:xnman said:
So I did find a faster way copy verses from Logos to my Word document. Maybe it's commonly used; I just discovered it.
- Enter the reference into the passage search field on your Bible in Logos
- Select the verses you want to copy (click-drag with your mouse)
- Press Ctrl+Alt+b
- Choose Copy and Paste
That's shorter than some other recommendations I've received.
I think there is even a quicker way. When you are in your word document, you can type CTRL+ALT B that will open the "Copy Bible Verses" window. Then type in the verse you want and choose "Copy and Paste."
Both of these methods, quite similar in fact, are very good, but in no wise as PRACTICAL AND FAST as ZipScript. It is possible to create some great verse media and quotes using Visual Copy and it is now a go to tool for me, but ZS is still a winner in one on one conversations when a verse is needed to be inserted.
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Logos, You Need To Add ZipScript to your Logos platform. I just bought a new computer and can no longer download Wordsearch so I cannot get this amazing feature on my new computer. It was part of the Wordsearch platform and is an amazing and invaluable tool. PLEASE do as you stated when you said any thing we hd in Wordsearch we would have in Logos and more. Then put in a patch for ZipScript. PLEASE!
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Rick Dinkins said:
I just bought a new computer and can no longer download Wordsearch so I cannot get this amazing feature on my new computer.
Folk in this thread My WordSearch might be able to help you get your Wordsearch back.
tootle pip
Mike
How to get logs and post them.(now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
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I love using zipscript also - I recently purchased a new computer -how can I can download zipscript on to it or is zipscript in Logos? Thanks
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ZIPSCRIPT is a necessary tool especially for online social media ministry.
LOGOS 10 Copy Paste Verse is not comparable in capabilities. I don't understand what is the delay in transiting and adopting a Logos version of this valuable tool.
Use the link below to vote for this app although it is more than obvious that this is a necessary app for the advancement of The Kingdom.
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George H. Merriweather said:
I love using zipscript also - I recently purchased a new computer -how can I can download zipscript on to it or is zipscript in Logos? Thanks
You have to install WordSearch on your new computer. Search the forums if you have trouble with that.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!
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The problem being discussed here has more to do with the fact that the only option now is Logos for a new computer, and it has zero capacity to download Wordsearch, they put it in mothballs and are not "supporting it" anymore. No Wordsearch, No ZipScript.
Inexplicably!
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Keith Robinson said:
The problem being discussed here has more to do with the fact that the only option now is Logos for a new computer, and it has zero capacity to download Wordsearch, they put it in mothballs and are not "supporting it" anymore. No Wordsearch, No ZipScript.
Inexplicably!
Not really inexplicable. Wordsearch's business model was not able to sustain the company or make it attractive to an outside buyer.
It would have been illogical for Faithlife to take over the business and maintain two bible study programs simultaneously.
What they did do, which as an outsider I thought was pretty generous, was to allow Wordsearch libraries to be uploaded to Logos at now charge.
The upshot is that Wordsearch users have ongoing access to their libraries through a program that is maintained and at no cost to themselves.
Surely this is better than the other likely outcome?
tootle pip
Mike
How to get logs and post them.(now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
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Keith Robinson said:
the fact that the only option now is Logos for a new computer
Keith, While WS cannot be downloaded, the program can be copied from an existing installation. See this thread - https://community.logos.com/forums/t/212142.aspx
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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Mike Binks said:Keith Robinson said:
The problem being discussed here has more to do with the fact that the only option now is Logos for a new computer, and it has zero capacity to download Wordsearch, they put it in mothballs and are not "supporting it" anymore. No Wordsearch, No ZipScript.
Inexplicably!
Not really inexplicable. Wordsearch's business model was not able to sustain the company or make it attractive to an outside buyer.
It would have been illogical for Faithlife to take over the business and maintain two bible study programs simultaneously.
What they did do, which as an outsider I thought was pretty generous, was to allow Wordsearch libraries to be uploaded to Logos at now charge.
The upshot is that Wordsearch users have ongoing access to their libraries through a program that is maintained and at no cost to themselves.
Surely this is better than the other likely outcome?
Aaah Hem to my brother across the pond! ZipScript was not the full blown WordSearch program. In fact it was an add on and a separate utility that worked with WordSearch.
IF Logos was to change the bible that ZipScript referenced from WordSearch to Logos.... ZipScript would work with Logos.... I think that is all that has to be done....
BTW - When Boris was head man over there.... he almost convinced me to want to visit that island.... [8-|]
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
IF Logos was to change the bible that ZipScript referenced from WordSearch to Logos.... ZipScript would work with Logos.... I think that is all that has to be done....
I don't know about Wordsearch but Logos has a proprietary format for its books that ZipScript would have to be rewritten to work with.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:xnman said:
IF Logos was to change the bible that ZipScript referenced from WordSearch to Logos.... ZipScript would work with Logos.... I think that is all that has to be done....
I don't know about Wordsearch but Logos has a proprietary format for its books that ZipScript would have to be rewritten to work with.
I doubt it... I think the code of ZipScript could be modified to use my bible in Logos instead of WordSearch. Logos just chose not to do that.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
Logos just chose not to do that.
Correct. They chose not to do so most likely for one of the following reasons:
- They don't own the rights to the ZipScript code.
- The modifications to make ZipScript work with the Logos format is cost prohibitive.
- The cost vs. benefit analysis results in low priority for the project.
- Other issues such as stablizing the current code have higher priority and a better cost vs. benefit ratio
- As a matter of policy they prefer to translate the missing features of a software they have purchased e.g. lesson builder before addressing issues where users from the purchased software simply prefer the old software's solution to the Faithlife software.
- No one has made a compelling case for ZipScript - one that shows competency in the use of each product.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Mike Binks said:
What they did do, which as an outsider I thought was pretty generous, was to allow Wordsearch libraries to be uploaded to Logos at now charge.
The upshot is that Wordsearch users have ongoing access to their libraries through a program that is maintained and at no cost to themselves.
Surely this is better than the other likely outcome?
I thought FL did a little more than provide access to owned books ... they spent a ton of money converting the WS stable. Complaining about zipscript seems a bit gratuitous.
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Yep... but a man that has only seen and ridden a horse will not understand the concept of a car. lol [8-|]
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
but a man that has only seen and ridden a horse will not understand the concept of a car.
Huh??? several people in several countries who had only ridden horses/donkeys/asses/burros ... envisioned railroad steam engines, gas powered cars, steam powered tractors ... they not only envisioned them, they built the prototypes and eventually workable models which they refined for mass consumption. Never underestimate the creativity of an individual farmer on a family farm.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Being a bit more specific.... a person that has never used ZipScript will not fully understand why some of us feel it is more powerful that Ctrl-Alt-B.
imho...
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
a person that has never used ZipScript will not fully understand why some of us feel it is more powerful that Ctrl-Alt-B.
As someone who still mourns the demise of Houdini (the hypertext note system that brought down Nixon), perhaps I understand too well why you are attached to ZipScript and why it is appropriate to request its return commensurate with its useful added functionality and other priorities.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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It's fairly clear that ZipScript provided a lot of value-add for WS users. I don't think that fact is misunderstood.
However -- and I get that you might sorta roll your eyes at this -- it would be a concern for most application developers to allow an older, unmaintained pop-up utility (like ZipScript, but you could name any such utility) to run alongside the application. It could present a security risk both to an OS, as well as to the application, due to the hooks required to access the data, and because it runs independently of the application, and because it hasn't been maintained. It's just not an ideal setup in today's world from a security and maintenance perspective. For you it's just a matter of installing and repointing the utility, but there are behind-the-scenes issues like this that honestly come into play.
Logos also has a modern design language/UI, and regardless of ZipScript's usefulness, like it or not they just aren't very likely to release it alongside the application without full integration into the Logos framework -- which would also likely have to work on a Mac. So both of these concerns, in addition to the items MJ listed earlier, would most likely need to be addressed within the prioritization given to it.
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou [art] God. (Ps 90:2)
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All well said and understood.... and understand.... no offense is meant and no offense is taken.....
But just like other Logos users.. can "request 0R suggest" and try to stir up votes for their pet peeve...
Well.... I think the same goes for ZipScript.....
And with that, if someone wants to discuss the great attributes of ZipScript and why it would be useful in Logos.... I would think that would be allowed also....
That's what I thought was going on in this thread.... [8-|]
P.S. By the way... you can help us get ZipScript by voting here! Thanks!
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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