Theology Guide-Geisler

Clinton Marshall
Clinton Marshall Member Posts: 12
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I can not get the Theology Guide to search my 4 volume Norman Geisler Systematic Theology as a preferred resource. I have it prioritized and selected as preferred. Why will it not include this set in the Theology Guide tool when I search various theological terms. I have used very broad terms and more specific terms.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,851

    Are you speaking of the Systematic Theologies section? If so you chose between these sequences: by resource, by articles, by rank or by count. Prioritization is not included as an options and will not be reflected.

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  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭✭

    I can not get the Theology Guide to search my 4 volume Norman Geisler Systematic Theology as a preferred resource. I have it prioritized and selected as preferred. Why will it not include this set in the Theology Guide tool when I search various theological terms. I have used very broad terms and more specific terms.

    The Theology Guide uses the Lexham Survey of Theology for the main article in the Topic section. Unfortunately you can't change that. It's not based on your prioritized resources. You should be seeing it in the Systematic Theologies section as one of the results. But again, it's not sorted by priority.

  • Clinton Marshall
    Clinton Marshall Member Posts: 12

    Thank you. I think I am figuring this out but I thought that the reason for prioritizing resources was so they would be searched first in ALL the guides?

  • Clinton Marshall
    Clinton Marshall Member Posts: 12

    There must be something wrong with the indexing of the Norman Geisler 4 vol. systematic theoloy.

    even though I search all volumes I get nothing on some searches. for instance.

    Election nothing in Geisler

    Predestination nothing in Geisler

    God the Holy Spirit NOTHING found in Geisler? I have use the drop down so the Lexham topic shows up.

    OK The doctrine of the Church showed up. But there are many MAJOR theological terms not showing up in Geisler. Should someone check the indexing?

  • Clinton Marshall
    Clinton Marshall Member Posts: 12

    by the way when I search "All Systematic Theologies still the same result.

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,409

    Election nothing in Geisler

    Predestination nothing in Geisler

    God the Holy Spirit NOTHING found in Geisler?

    Can you show me exactly where in Geisler you are expecting to see these topics linked to?

    The Systematic Theologies section isn't showing places where the word is mentioned (use a search for that). It's showing places where there is an article or significant block of text about the subject.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,877

    Thank you. I think I am figuring this out but I thought that the reason for prioritizing resources was so they would be searched first in ALL the guides?

    No! You prioritize resources primarily for lookup e.g. in the Context menu, Parallel Resources - books that have an index other than Volume/Page. So that excludes most monographs and theological books that appear in Theology Guide. That also applies to Sermon books with the Sermon Guide, and Counseling books with the Counseling Guide. In fact, Faithlife have to tag books before they can appear in these Guides, and their order is usually by Title. Similarly with books that appear in other sections of Guides, like Journals and Personal Letters.

    Faithlife have to tag bible dictionaries before they can appear in Topic Guide, but you can prioritize these books to determine their order.  Prioritization also affects the order of commentaries in Passage Guide & Exegetical Guide, and the order of lexicons that appear in Bible Word Study, but they do not have to be tagged as above.

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  • Clinton Marshall
    Clinton Marshall Member Posts: 12

    Thank you I am figuring that out. I guess the book titles and subtitles are not overly conducive to some search features. But yes I can find things with specific "word" searches. Make the "guide" a little less useful. I have found this same issue with some other resources. But hey I am enjoying learning the program. 

    I am posting a couple of screen shots that I assumed the Theology Guide would take me.

  • Clinton Marshall
    Clinton Marshall Member Posts: 12

    I assumed the Theology guide would take me to this place and just as an example I searched Theology Guide for "Election"

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,233

    Hi Clinton

    Thank you for the examples. When we annotated the resource we took a slightly higher level approach to the resource. I think there is some additional annotation work we could do that would be helpful. Generally speaking we're trying to walk a line between mentions (we probably don't want to annotate) and in-depth discussions on a Theology Guide concept (we definitely do want to annotate). It's the middle ground between the two that can get fuzzy. We'll take a look at this one and see if we can pick up a bit more coverage.

  • Clinton Marshall
    Clinton Marshall Member Posts: 12

    Thank you, I understand. Keep up the good work.

  • Jeremy Archer
    Jeremy Archer Member Posts: 36 ✭✭

    Does this also impact searching by word or by Bible reference when searching "All systematic theologies"?

    It is a little astonishing to me that search for a specific word returns no results from Grudem's ST.

  • Jeremy Archer
    Jeremy Archer Member Posts: 36 ✭✭

    If I make a new collection of ST texts and search that way it fixes this problem.

    Maybe the real issue here is that neither Grudem nor Geisler's texts are properly categorized as systematic theologies?

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,409

    Does this also impact searching by word or by Bible reference when searching "All systematic theologies"?

    That's a different problem. I responded on your other thread.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer