Adding a Highlight or a Note
I'm not sure why I didn't notice this before, guess the answer is still moving up the learning curve.....
Adding a highlight to a verse or word appears to be the same as adding a note to a verse or a word. The only difference I see is how the text is marked up. Notes leave a marker with the selection and highlighting leaves however you've defined the marking for the selection. But with both, you can insert text in a note field. I've been adding highlights and notes, sometimes both to the same verse, sure doesn't seem like that needs to be done anymore.
The question, are there advantages of doing it one way or the other? Or is it just user preference? It kinda looks like Visual Filters works with either, is that correct? Am I missing something?
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Eugene Nowak said:
Adding a highlight to a verse or word appears to be the same as adding a note to a verse or a word.
A highlight is a special type of note. This isn't new, it has been that way for many years.
Eugene Nowak said:The question, are there advantages of doing it one way or the other?
The issue isn't really over a highlight vs. a note... the issue is how you connect the note.
A "highlight" is by definition, a note of "selection." The "selection" is what the note is connected to. Conversely, you can make a note by reference.
What is the difference? It is easier if you eliminate bibles from the conversation for a bit.
When you highlight a passage in a non versified book, the note is connected to those words, in that resource, in that location. You wouldn't or shouldn't expect the highlight to impact or appear in any other resource.
With bibles, things are a bit more complicated. This is where you may see some differences in what you were expecting, but it is also not new with L9. If you make a highlight, it is STILL connected to those words, in that resource, in that location. However, if the versified resource has a reverse interlinear (which you have access to), then Logos can (in the past several years) use the RI information to "bring over" notes from other resources.
If you create a note by reference, you can gain access to that note in ANY "versified" resource at that location. For example, if you create a note tied to "John 3:16," then that note can be accessed in any other bible or commentary at the passage in John 3:16. If you create a highlight on "world" in John 3:16, then that highlight note will be available only in other bibles with RI's attached. If you want to make sure your note is available in all other bibles, you would need to create a note by reference instead.
I <think> that answers your question. If not, smarter people than me will chime in. [:)]
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Eugene Nowak said:
I'm not sure why I didn't notice this before, guess the answer is still moving up the learning curve.....
Adding a highlight to a verse or word appears to be the same as adding a note to a verse or a word. The only difference I see is how the text is marked up. Notes leave a marker with the selection and highlighting leaves however you've defined the marking for the selection. But with both, you can insert text in a note field. I've been adding highlights and notes, sometimes both to the same verse, sure doesn't seem like that needs to be done anymore.
The question, are there advantages of doing it one way or the other? Or is it just user preference? It kinda looks like Visual Filters works with either, is that correct? Am I missing something?
JT's answer is great!
I would add that when you create a custom highlight palette, you can specify a Notebook for that set to use. For instance, I'm preaching through Matthew, and Lloyd-Jones' book "Studies In The Sermon On The Mount" has been very helpful. I created a Notebook just for that book. Then I created a custom highlight palette, which I linked to the Notebook (using the main drop down menu for the custom palette). Now, my highlights in that book can be found in a single Notebook, instead of floating out in nondescript highlight space somewhere. I would suggest that if you do this, you tag your notes, as well as dating them at the top, so that you can more easily find them.
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Thanks for the response.
Guess I should have included is my learning curve comes from transitioning from WORDsearch to Logos. I’ve used both Highligting and Notes in WORDsearch. But their capability was different. For example, tagging a note to a non-versified resource did create program issues. Logos carries much greater capabilities. I’ll review your comments when I get back to my computer😷😎
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Eugene Nowak said:
are there advantages of doing it one way or the other?
Bama's explanation is superb. All I can add is, before this change, Notes and Highlights were apocalyptically confusing. Since making them "the same," they are now only moderately confusing.
The good part about the recent change is, the decision over which is better is basically taken away...you don't have to decide. And with the ability to tag and add anchors, making everything a note (reference, not selection) is an easy approach.
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Again thank y'all for the responses.
Back home and digested the responses. As mentioned, I'm transitioning from Wordsearch to Logos. And in Wordsearch the highlighting and notes tools behaved differently, but that is all history. Over the past few months of Logos use, along with going thru all the videos, webinars and helps I'd gotten to the understanding the JT presented. And then most recently I've been doing what Gregory has mentioned.
In Wordsearch I would have to highlight a verse (in the rectangles) as a separate activity from adding a note (in the circle)
But now in Logos, I can do either or both. As I started my journey in Logos I was adding both highlights and notes to verses. This snapshot should show all the program nuances mentioned so far. I have created multiple palettes for different uses. Created multiple notebooks to collect notes from both Bible and non-Bible resources. Tied palettes to various notebooks.
But it was when I was doing a little digging into a verse that I noticed, using my old Wordsearch habit, that now in Logos I can add notes to highlights. And those notes inserted into highlighted text can be visible if I add a note icon to the highlight note. Here's a closeup of the above snapshot. The items in red pertain to the highlight note tool. The items in blue apply to the notes tool.
So what I've learned with this is Logos has greater highlighting/notes capability than Wordsearch did and I don't have to use two tools to add both highlights and notes to the same text.
But my question to experienced users, is what advantages or disadvantages are there of using the highlighting note tool versus just using a note tool?
The obvious use of just adding a note is the text is still clean (with only an icon attached to the margin of the text), but it seems like visual filters can provide that "clean" viewing.
Am I missing something?
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Eugene Nowak said:
But my question to experienced users, is what advantages or disadvantages are there of using the highlighting note tool versus just using a note tool?
It's worth restating - as I think you recognise by what you have said - that the same tool is used for both.
I look at it from the perspective of three different scenarios:
- If I just want to highlight a portion of text to remind me that I thought it particularly significant, I will apply a highlight without adding any comment. Sometimes I use different colours - green for "agree", red for "disagree" and so on
- If I want to highlight a portion of text but also comment on it, then I add some text into the created highlight
- If I simply want to add some comments to the text but not "mark it up" I will add a note
Eugene Nowak said:The obvious use of just adding a note is the text is still clean (with only an icon attached to the margin of the text), but it seems like visual filters can provide that "clean" viewing.
They can - but you can't say that you want the icon left visible and the highlight to be removed. So if you want to be able to see icons associated with notes but not to see highlights you need to create the notes without any highlights in the first place
Does this help at all?
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Eugene Nowak said:
visual filters can provide that "clean" viewing.
Remember Visual Filters run off selection rules; highlights run off the reader's judgment.
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Again, thank you all for the responses.
Graham, the 1,2,3 makes sense and helps develop a rationale. I have a palette setup that in part matches #1, highlighting items/verses as I read, just because they catch my eye or I want to go back and find them quick or want to flag for future study. I think #2 is where I am at with doing investigation on a verse or digging into a topic, my personal study. It's where I am spending more time in formatting and organizing the notes in a notebook with the idea of being able to share them. #3 fits in where I'm integrating notes taken during a church service into Logos and want to be able to retrieve them without going thru stacks of paper notebooks trying to find something that was studied in a sermon.
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