BUG: "Upload" button not always available for compiled books.

JT (alabama24)
JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489
edited November 21 in English Forum

As reported in THIS post, the "upload" button is not always available when returning to a project. 

  • The user compiled 1500 books
  • The user returned to each project to upload
  • The "upload" button was not always available.

I scrolled through my personal books and found some with and some without the upload button. NOTE: I have not uploaded many personal books, so I view this as confirmation. It is hard to tell, however, when there doesn't appear to be a means of determining which personal books have been uploaded. documents.logos.com does not show them. 

I am no longer sure that what I wrote is true. I ended up filtering a second computer for edition:u and found around 100 resources... My primary installation has around 200. After checking about 30 resources, it appears that the ones which were uploaded have the button greyed out (as I would anticipate), while the ones I have not have the button available. Part of my confusion was how LONG my secondary computer took to download the personal book (which should be fairly small... only text). 

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,682

    After checking about 30 resources, it appears that the ones which were uploaded have the button greyed out

    It is more complicated than that. Currently, you can know that a PB has been uploaded if Library allows you to "Download"  or "Remove from this Device".

    So "button greyed out" can indicate:-

    • not on computer
      • "Download" it or recompile+upload it
    • it has been uploaded, but you may not have the last uploaded version (from another computer)
      • the uploaded PB should be downloaded to your other computers

    and "button available" can indicate:

    • never uploaded; or
    • current version not uploaded

    So I'm not sure there is a bug, but Faithlife could avoid confusion by providing a date "Last uploaded" in addition to the date "Last built". See https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/please-add-personal-book-upload-indicator

    Dave
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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

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  • Armin
    Armin Member Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭

    There has been some speculation elsewhere in this forum that there is a maximum file size that can be uploaded. In my situation, this seems to be the case: One newly created (large) PBB did not give me the option to upload. But the next (smaller) PBB could be uploaded.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,879

    There has been some speculation elsewhere in this forum that there is a maximum file size that can be uploaded. In my situation, this seems to be the case: One newly created (large) PBB did not give me the option to upload. But the next (smaller) PBB could be uploaded.

    This is no speculation, it has been communicated by Faithlife that this is the case when the upload functionality was introduced several years ago. I think I remember the size limit back then being something like 20MB - compiled Logos file, not source file - and only few PBs.

    My example was always Mark Barnes' "Dictionary of Christianity and the Bible" (a script-produced PB of all faith-related entries in Wikipedia as of what must have been 2014), coming in at near 400MB on my system. MJ Smith' exhaustive reference of "Verbum search tips" for L8 and 9 is a recent example beyond the upload size limit (the seven docx-files with many many screenshots add up to 256MB and become 265MB compiled). 

    I verified the approximately 20MB size limit with successfully uploading a PB larger than 15MB compiled size and not being offered an upload button for a freshly-built 28MB book (which was compiled from a single 23MB Word document). Logos PB compilation seems to increase the document size somewhat, maybe by up to 25%, so I'd expect not being able to upload PBs from sources larger than 15MB docx file size. Having images or many ten thousands of cross-referenced pages may lead to that - but in my large collection of PBs this is very rare. Sermon compilations of thousands of sermons with cross-referenced indexes, a PB with pictures of NT manuscript pages and an edition of Talmud Steinsaltz make the cut, but as I said, it's a rare occurrence.     

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