ENOUGH ALREADY MR PRITCHETT!

I have HAD IT!
I am just about done with Logos forever!
SIXTY THREE ADS in my Logos software is FAR TOO MANY!
I have turned it off and you KEEP adding them back.
THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS! You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
I find you not in business to make money, but extremely greedy! I have tried and tried to blame me and get past this. I CANNOT!
So, as of this moment, I will NOT spend another dime. In the meantime, I will have to pray about dumping you and Logos forever!
The frustration level is more my issue. But, your extreme greed is yours! In 10 years I have spent more money on Logos, and lining your pockets than I have buying and repairing my car! RIDICULOUS! You are from here on out, completely cut off.

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scooter

You need to let a little air out of your cape, Batman. Way, far not nice, Dark Crusader.

You should sell it, or transfer it to a less reactionary soul.

You do not need to be rescued; you need to rescue us from your over-amped drama.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

Thankful Home Page Explore can be customized (gear icon). Currently have four items checked:

Excerpts
From your Library
Today in Christian History
Verse of the Day

Feature Suggestions includes lots (bit overwhelming) plus wish for language selection choices (or default to user interface language).

"My Logos Message" include many marketing items, which overwhelms useful messages (and other checked items).

Personal quirk is using a web browser for browsing & purchasing. Yet appreciate many mobile apps have in-app purchasing. My favorite shopping apps lets me put items in a shopping cart that shows estimated total with ad specials, coupons, and tax (usually within a penny at checkout, but the nearest store to my house is 30 miles away). My browser for Faithlife web sites has several tabs open to periodically search web stores:

Logos.com Live Savings => https://www.logos.com/search?limit=60&page=1&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=availableToMe&filters=availability-storefront-lo_Available%20At%2Bstatus-live_Status%2Bstorefront-lo_Available%20At&sortBy=Savings

Faithlife eBooks Live Savings => https://ebooks.faithlife.com/search?context=product&sortBy=PriceLow&limit=60&page=1&filters=status-live_Status%2Bstorefront-vy_Available%20At&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=all

Logos.com Live Highest First (look for Dynamic Pricing discounts) => https://www.logos.com/search?limit=60&page=1&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=all&filters=availability-storefront-lo_Available%20At%2Bstatus-live_Status%2Bstorefront-lo_Available%20At&sortBy=PriceHigh

Keep Smiling [:)]

Adam Borries (Logos)

I have turned it off and you KEEP adding them back.

This part concerns me. I take "ads" to mean "things for sale on the home page," either from blogs or "My Logos Messages". Are you saying that you have disabled blog and message cards on the home page settings, and they keep getting re-enabled?

John Kaess

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165019#Comment_1165019

No drama from me, but i've been a Logos user since the mid 90's, and in the past year i've unsubscribed from all Logos/Faithlife emails because no matter what i checked or unchecked, i continued to be overwhelmed by sale information, but worst of all for Church oriented products. I'm retired and unchecking the church and proclaim options did not stop me from getting the church oriented emails, so i just unsubscribed from everything. I've also turned off the Homepage because it is OVERWHELMINGLY all about spamming things to buy. I've bought well over $10,000 of Logos resources over the past 20+ years, and i've made a point of eliminating all spam emails from my inbox, which unfortunately includes Logos/Faithlife. I feel the OP's pain, though i find just unsubscribing and then turning off the home page worked for me. That means i lose some of the Home Page features i'd like to see, like courses i'm taking, daily devotionals, and Christian History, but it's worth it to get rid of all the spam. I check the forums every day for important stuff.

scooter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165024#Comment_1165024

No drama from me, but i've been a Logos user since the mid 90's, and in the past year i've unsubscribed from all Logos/Faithlife emails because no matter what i checked or unchecked, i continued to be overwhelmed by sale information, but worst of all for Church oriented products. I'm retired and unchecking the church and proclaim options did not stop me from getting the church oriented emails, so i just unsubscribed from everything. I've also turned off the Homepage because it is OVERWHELMINGLY all about spamming things to buy. I've bought well over $10,000 of Logos resources over the past 20+ years, and i've made a point of eliminating all spam emails from my inbox, which unfortunately includes Logos/Faithlife. I feel the OP's pain, though i find just unsubscribing and then turning off the home page worked for me. That means i lose some of the Home Page features i'd like to see, like courses i'm taking, daily devotionals, and Christian History, but it's worth it to get rid of all the spam. I check the forums every day for important stuff.

I take the emails and look thru them. I use the home page so seldom, I forget it exists, on purpose. I look at the new volumes on offer in pre-whatever, so as to keep up.

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165019#Comment_1165019

I have turned it off and you KEEP adding them back.

This part concerns me. I take "ads" to mean "things for sale on the home page," either from blogs or "My Logos Messages". Are you saying that you have disabled blog and message cards on the home page settings, and they keep getting re-enabled?

Adam

I thought "My Logos Messages" would refer to messages I might receive from my faithlife.com. I see that is not the case and have now turned that off. For Batman, that might be the issue? Because it seems that "My Logos Messages" are all ads. Maybe helpful to rename it to ?My Logos Ads"?

Ben

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165030#Comment_1165030

... I never use the Home Page. Never seen an ad.

Michael

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165034#Comment_1165034

... I never use the Home Page. Never seen an ad.

Same.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165030#Comment_1165030

Because it seems that "My Logos Messages" are all ads. Maybe helpful to rename it to ?My Logos Ads"?

Dreaming of "My Logos Messages" having marketing ads split off into "My Faithlife Offers"

Keep Smiling [:)]

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165049#Comment_1165049

I do use the dashboard of the homepage and occasionally actually see the first row of the other stuff ... I rarely see ads.

Adam Borries (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165030#Comment_1165030

I thought "My Logos Messages" would refer to messages I might receive from my faithlife.com. I see that is not the case and have now turned that off. For Batman, that might be the issue? Because it seems that "My Logos Messages" are all ads. Maybe helpful to rename it to ?My Logos Ads"?

That's a fair point. "My Logos Messages" predate our send-messages-to-other-people system. Now that we have a robust messaging platform, I can see how the "My Logos Messages" could easily be confused with "Faithlife Messages." We will take that under consideration.

I was more concerned that it sounded like Batman was turning that off those home page cards, and somehow they were getting set back to on. We take user preferences (like all user data, everywhere in the app) very seriously; there should never be a time when you set your preference and we override it.

Ben

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165067#Comment_1165067

"we have a robust messaging platform"

Wait, what the heck is this referring to?

Adam Borries (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165068#Comment_1165068

Faithlife Messages for group or direct messages to other Faithlife users.

https://support.faithlife.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012919211-Sending-Messages

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165070#Comment_1165070

Faithlife Messages for group or direct messages to other Faithlife users.

https://support.faithlife.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012919211-Sending-Messages

Don't think I knew about this. But it may be useful to have this linked as a homepage option...

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165079#Comment_1165079

I have looked at the Faithlife ecosystem (i.e. typically stuff not Logos related), and I am repeatedly reminded that it is the least user friendly collection of webpages I've ever encountered. With only rare exceptions, I can never accomplish anything constructive.

Let's say, though, that I was remotely interested in using FL messaging. How much 1984-style sniffing and snooping does FL do with data entered into this app?

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165024#Comment_1165024

That means i lose some of the Home Page features i'd like to see, like courses i'm taking, daily devotionals, and Christian History, but it's worth it to get rid of all the spam. I check the forums every day for important stuff.

We shouldn't have to loose any feature in order to stop advertising if we don't want it. But the fact is we can't turn off every bit of advertising. I can't turn off the store tab in my library, I can turn of the store tab in search results. There should be a system wide setting to turn off the display of the store throughout the program if you don't want to use it. We shouldn't have to sacrifice other features by turning off the internet usage in order to stop results from the store showing up.

i've been a Logos user since the mid 90's, and in the past year i've unsubscribed from all Logos/Faithlife emails because no matter what i checked or unchecked, i continued to be overwhelmed by sale information, but worst of all for Church oriented products. I'm retired and unchecking the church and proclaim options did not stop me from getting the church oriented emails, so i just unsubscribed from everything

Once again we shouldn't have to unsubscribe from everything in order to stop getting emails for Church related products. This is just plain wrong.

The recent 'special event' was overkill and I have no use for FL Equip and think it represents everything that is wrong with FL these days stretching themselves way beyond the core product and expertise in order to try and get their finger in every slice of the church budget that they possibly can while there core product is not receiving the attention it deserves. And to make the marketing for that particular event even worse MP Seminars were the worst offenders email what seemed likely daily telling me to not miss the event. MP Seminars overstepped the line with the volume of marketing they did for an event that was totally irrelevant to me and probably lots of their other customers.

Tony Walker

Make every dime you can, Bob. I want you to stay in business for a looooong time.

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165013#Comment_1165013

Way, far not nice, Dark Crusader.

And your response is nice Scooter?

You should sell it, or transfer it to a less reactionary soul.

And who are you to tell another customer to sell or give away their Logos library?

You seem to be the one who is being a little bit precious and reactionary.

You do not need to be rescued; you need to rescue us from your over-amped drama.

So what if another customers express their frustrations with FL? Does it really impact you that much it gives you the right

to turn into a keyboard warrior and pound out an over-amped dramatic response to their expressed frustration?

Maybe you should have stayed on your scooter instead of stopping to throw stones.

All your throwing stones at a fellow customer has demonstrated is your inability to deal with conflict, to look past a persons expressed frustration, to be able to see them as a person, to feel empathy for their situation. It's not about whether you agree with how they have expressed themselves or with the issue that's troubling them but whether you have the ability to step back and deal with the situation in a positive way. Clearly you can't so would be better off staying on that scooter when threads like arise on the forums.

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165100#Comment_1165100

Make every dime you can, Bob. I want you to stay in business for a looooong time.

We all want that but he should do it in a way that is respectful of people's wish to be able use all features of the software free of advertising if that is what they choose. This is not shareware people have paid a fair price already so if they don't want ads, if they don't want the logos store showing up in their library or search results, if they don't want to be bombarded with emails about products that don't interest them then they should be able to stop those things while having full access to the rest of the software or other emailing lists they do want to receive.

Fabian

I have HAD IT!
I am just about done with Logos forever!
SIXTY THREE ADS in my Logos software is FAR TOO MANY!
I have turned it off and you KEEP adding them back.
THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS! You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
I find you not in business to make money, but extremely greedy! I have tried and tried to blame me and get past this. I CANNOT!
So, as of this moment, I will NOT spend another dime. In the meantime, I will have to pray about dumping you and Logos forever!
The frustration level is more my issue. But, your extreme greed is yours! In 10 years I have spent more money on Logos, and lining your pockets than I have buying and repairing my car! RIDICULOUS! You are from here on out, completely cut off.

I agree. Even on the Forum website are ads.

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1165107#Comment_1165107

I have HAD IT!
I am just about done with Logos forever!
SIXTY THREE ADS in my Logos software is FAR TOO MANY!
I have turned it off and you KEEP adding them back.
THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS! You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
I find you not in business to make money, but extremely greedy! I have tried and tried to blame me and get past this. I CANNOT!
So, as of this moment, I will NOT spend another dime. In the meantime, I will have to pray about dumping you and Logos forever!
The frustration level is more my issue. But, your extreme greed is yours! In 10 years I have spent more money on Logos, and lining your pockets than I have buying and repairing my car! RIDICULOUS! You are from here on out, completely cut off.

I agree. Even on the Forum website are ads.

I could probably buy two new cars for what I've spent on Logos...and I don't even own a car now. But that has been my choice. I almost spent $700 dollars yesterday on an L8 package but decided not to. That was also my choice.

It sounds like both of you have impulse control problems. That's not Bob's problem. People are constantly making suggestions to FL about adding new features & new resources, and that all costs money. It's just life. FL's forum has ads for FL's products...so? My reaction is...obviously! Of course it does.