Make Books Downloadable to Kindle

Mike Childs
Mike Childs Member Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

The fact that many people - perhaps most people - do not live in an area with 3G cellular internet makes the mobile web pretty much worthless.  The same is true for library.logos.com

If we could download the books to something like the Kindle ereader, it would be an invaluable tool.  I urge Logos to consider this.  Many of us would buy books that we simply not buy to read on the computer.  I refer to books that one would use for extensive reading - perhaps cover to cover.  It would open up a great new market for Logos and provide an invaluable tool for users.


"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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  • Rob Kuefner
    Rob Kuefner Member Posts: 160

    Michael,

    Actually you can already access your books on your kindle through library.logos.com Go to your browser on your kindle. choose the advanced mode, not the basic mode which is on by default. this allows you to log onto the server, and any books which are available through library.logos.com are now readable on your kindle. While it'd be great if Logos could produce books which would be readable on the Kindle, I'm not sure of Amazon's willingness to allow access to the azw kindle format by an outside company. Since you can access it this way, you actually have access to all of your logos books as they become available for the mobile library.logos.com web. Blessings, Rob

  • Rob Kuefner
    Rob Kuefner Member Posts: 160

    Michael,

    Sorry, re-read your post again and noted that your greater issue was web connectivity, so even though you can read resources on the kindle through it's web browser, it's probably not really an answer to your delimma when I suggested that you can access books through your kindle. I'm not sure what the options really are however, since the kindles format is proprietary, unless the kindle app feature which is supposed to be coming someday would allow for Logos to build an app where their books could be downloaded for reading offline... I haven't seen any word yet about when the apps feature will put into use for the kindle, though I think their sdk is available is people what to try and develop for it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 879

    Kindle apps are possible, but they are limited to 100KB/month download, which pretty much rules out a Logos app.

  • Michael S. Dysart
    Michael S. Dysart Member Posts: 9 ✭✭

    Robert,

    Recently acquired a Kindle II which apparently does not have an "Advanced Mode"?  Is this new with the Kindle II?

     

     

  • John Eggen
    John Eggen Member Posts: 202 ✭✭

    Michael,

    Here is my workaround I use: (posted on http://community.logos.com/forums/p/24922/184909.aspx#184909)


    I have long been someone who reads on LCD based devices (laptop, iPod touch, EVO) until I got my Kindle.  I admit that e-ink is significantly more pleasant reading experience than a back-lit device.

    What I do is use a program called Calibre e-book management to generate files to send to my Kindle.  You can copy/paste books chapter by chapter out of Logos into Word, save the Word file and then use Calibre to convert/send to your Kindle.  A little extra work, but it allows you to keep your resources in your Logos Library and read them on a dedicated e-reader.  Of course notes and highlights don't sync to anything, but it sure makes for a good reading experience!

  • I  agree "If we could download the books to something like the Kindle ereader, it would be an invaluable tool.  I urge Logos to consider this.  Many of us would buy books that we simply not buy to read on the computer." I have a Sony Reader and scour the market for the substantive ebooks. I don't read books other than reference books on my computer.

    Med Bailie medjbatt@att.net

  • Dominick Sela
    Dominick Sela Member Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭

    Whatever reader I can easily and with high quality download Logos resources to for reading, I will buy. The time is coming when I will sit in my easy chair with coffee (AM) or a glass of wine (PM) and read from a device not a book. Laptop doesn't work that well. And I don't want to have to do a bunch of conversions, run utilities etc. to make it happen. So I'll wait and see what Logos really embraces!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 879

    Any of the Windows 7 based tablets, such as the HP Slate, will do this fine.  And you can run kind software on them too.

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭

    And you can run kind software on them too.

    I think he means Kindle software. [:)]

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • Steven Spence
    Steven Spence Member Posts: 7

    I'm looking to buy some kind of e-reader.  Either a nook or a kindle or something else, but I REALLY want to be able to read the many books I have in my Logos software on what ever kind of e-reader, I buy.  I STRONGLY encourage Logos to make something available.

  • Dan Pritchett tweeted yesterday about Logos progress for Android => http://twitter.com/danpritchett

    Observation: some Nook Color users hope to install Logos Android app => http://community.logos.com/forums/t/28625.aspx and http://community.logos.com/forums/t/26374.aspx

    Logos is already freely available for Apple's iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad - if own a Logos 4 base package, most library resources are available for use; many can be downloaded for offline use (needs a network connection for resource download).  Also needs network connection for Search, Passage Guide, and Bible Word Study.  Looking forward to Notes and Highlighting being added in future (along with iPad 2 and iPhone 5 later this year).  Anticipating Logos Android application to have similar features as iOS application - also curious about Android hardware needed for good Logos performance (Motorola Xoom tablet should be available for purchase in few weeks).

    Currently using Kindle, Nook and several other eBook readers on an iPad, a forum thread  is following Apple guideline enforcement for content purchasing => http://community.logos.com/forums/t/29373.aspx (Sony application was rejected for including its own in-app purchasing instead of Apple's)

    Another forum thread discusses Kindle => http://community.logos.com/forums/t/5094.aspx (including potential copyright issue since Logos licensing does not include Kindle usage).

    Windows tablets have option of running Kindle, Nook, and Sony eBook applications (tablets similar to laptop computers - screens can be positioned to hide keyboard - been available for many years with lackluster sales).

    MacBook Air is lighter than many Windows tablets and can run Logos 4 Mac application plus other e-readers => http://community.logos.com/forums/t/29595.aspx

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭

    Please Logos, give us an "export to Kindle" feature. Not an app or a site. I want to read my books right on the Kindle.

    I promise to buy more books from you.

    Jerry

    iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.

  • John Eggen
    John Eggen Member Posts: 202 ✭✭

    Couldn't agree more.  I have stopped buying books I want to read on Logos.  Just not really any effective way to read time outside of using the full L4 on my desktop.  I need portable reading (including highlights and notes) and Logos just doesn't have it at this point.  Kindle does though ;)  Exporting books is okay, but I think it would be a phenomenal partnership if Logos could pull it off.

  • trent ashley jessup
    trent ashley jessup Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    I agree!  I have an extensive library built up in Logos, and --like Dominick-- there are times that I simply want to sit and read while enjoying a cup of coffee and not drag out my laptop.  Being Active Duty Navy, I could upload the books to my Kindle and have for deployments.  Not everyone has 3G cellular or internet access all of the time.  Nor do I have the time before a deployment to sit down and copy Logos titles chapter by chapter to convert to PDF to transfer to the Kindle . . .

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    Being Active Duty Navy, I could upload the books to my Kindle and have for deployments.  Not everyone has 3G cellular or internet access all of the time.  Nor do I have the time before a deployment to sit down and copy Logos titles chapter by chapter to convert to PDF to transfer to the Kindle . . .

    Hope your deployment goes well! I am a reserve AF chaplain and will be deploying in Jan.

    I'm not sure what type of time constraints you have but it may be that you are un-aware of some shortcuts for converting Logos Books to Kindle format. It's been a while since I did a book so I thought I would do a time trial. It took me under 20 minutes to convert Boyce's Abstract of Systematic Theology to the native Kindle format, complete with table of contents, and start reading it on my Kindle. To me this is well worth it. It's like adding a chapter's worth of time to my reading the book to get it in Kindle format. Boyce was actually a harder one because it has 43 chapters, all of which must be individually selected. that took up 10 of the the 18-20 minutes. Keep in mind, this is not a book in PDF format, or a book that is automatically converted by Amazon. This is in the Kindle's native format using  the free tool MobiPocket Creator. Amazon bought MobiPocket and used their format for Kindle books. If you are interested in the steps to make this happen let me know and I'll email them to you.

    Disclaimer: Its always good to remember that sharing books created from Logos undermines the very system that lets us create the books (aka if Logos doesn't make money, Logos goes under, and we can no longer create books) and, more importantly, is stealing and dishonest. So if you turn a Logos book into a non-Logos format, use it only for your own purposes. I am not writing this to you, Trent, but to anyone that might stumble upon this post or any other the describes how to convert Logos books.

  • Matt Wright
    Matt Wright Member Posts: 124 ✭✭

    The steps in selecting and converting for my kindle would be great. Have downloaded the software Mobipocket: but am stymied ... can't figure out what next!

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭

    A shameless bump.

    This is my most-wanted feature in Logos. I want my books on Kindle.

    Failing that, how about a dedicated Vyrso reader using e-ink (not a back-lit screen)? That would be pretty cool.

    Jerry

    iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    The steps in selecting and converting for my kindle would be great. Have downloaded the software Mobipocket: but am stymied ... can't figure out what next!

    I'll give you a brief list below. If you don't know how to do any of the following, let me know.

    1. open the resource in Logos, set the font size to the smallest, go to print the book, set the page size to Tabloid. This will exploit the most of the 100 page limit.

    2. select each of the chapters and sections making sure to right click and "select all" for sections with sub-headings.

    3. export to Word.

    4. in Word go to chapter one and note formatting distinctions (e.g. size 16 font bold). Replace all 16 font bold with "heading 1". You can do the same for sub-headings replacing them with "heading 2"

    5. pull up the navigation toolbar and make sure all the headings are present and look correct.

    6. save the document in the 2003 .doc format.

    7. Open mobipocket creator. select "MS Word Document under "import from existing file". Under "choose a file" select your created .doc file. Click Import

    8. click "table of contents" on left. click add table of contents. in the box that intersects First Level and Tag name type "h1" if you created heading 2 levels put "h2" in the box below where you put "h1". click "update at the bottom. To confirm you table of contents click table of contents on left again and select "preview in browser" at the top.

    9. under metadata make sure the author name is correct as well as any other information you want to be included. select update" at bottom.

    10: click the build icon at top. then press the build button. under My Documents>My Publications you should see a folder with your book name. Drag this over to the "documents" folder on your Kindle.