@KYLE: Is BECNT designed to be Logos Reader Editions?

NB.Mick · July 2021

The BestCommentaries Sale is underway again, and I couldn't stay away. Among a few other books I got Karen Jobes' 1 Peter from the BECNT series. This series seems to be very prestigious, has stellar authors and is well-loved by experts doing reviews and thus comes up quite frequently to high-ranking positions on bestcommentaries.com. I opened the book and read the introduction - and I liked a lot of what Ms Jobes wrote - but all her references to other commentaries etc. lacked links to those books! BECNT utilizes a modern form of attributing citations - there are less footnotes and more in-text brackets like (McKnight 1996: 35) which of course refers to page 35 of Scot McKnight's 1996 NIVAC commentary on 1 Peter which is in Logos and should be linked but isn't. Actually, it seems no such citation is linked at all! I put in three or four typo reports, then stopped and tried to verify in other BECNT resources.

Since BECNT doesn't come in base packages and usually is very expensive, I have accumulated only a small number of them: Only Yarbrough's Letters of John, Schreiner on Romans and Moo on Galatians in my quite extensive Logos library (and proud to own Koestenberger on John, but unfortunately only in paper - that is a rant for another day). The missing links seem to be endemic in at least two of those three, too - I can see that some links are present in the Galatians volume, while the other two seem to look as bleak and eBook-like as 1 Peter.

Really, I tend to find BECNT too expensive, period. But I understand that top quality may afford a top price - but this isn't it. Having only bible references reliably linked, but missing out on resource links makes a resource fulfilling the definition of a Reader's edition, not a Logos Research edition as should be.

No I don't want to give back this one book - I want FL to produce top quality books, which for the asking price of BECNT volumes involves doing the homework of putting in all those links to other Logos resources. For all of the catalogue it's overdue to bring forward a crowd-source-solution for supplying links. Please consider this.

Veli Voipio · July 2021

The problem might be in your Logos version. They fixed something and introduced something new, which is just normal. I have had Acts for a long time, and links in it work as expected. Recently I bought Luke, and the links to books do not work. Scripture references seem to work.

NB.Mick · July 2021

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1172957#Comment_1172957

They fixed something and introduced something new, which is just normal. I have had Acts for a long time, and links in it work as expected. Recently I bought Luke, and the links to books do not work.

The point is not that links don't work, they are not present in the first place.

the page numbers are simply black text, no link behind them in whatever format.

See the Galatians volume, where links are present to some extent (the link is blue and will work on mouse-over and click):

EDIT: Concordance shows that BECNT 1 Peter has exactly 50 active citation links, starting with BDAG (9 times). This is near zero.

The Galatians volume - while probably still not optimal - has 2834 citations (each time excluding internal links to the book itself), citing the major commentaries on the book.

Daniel Radke · July 2021

Really, I tend to find BECNT too expensive, period. But I understand that top quality may afford a top price - but this isn't it. Having only bible references reliably linked, but missing out on resource links makes a resource fulfilling the definition of a Reader's edition, not a Logos Research edition as should be.

Thank you for sharing this. I am someone that would love to buy these volumes, but also find them too expensive. They are rarely on sale and almost never discounted, which my understanding is that this is more of a publisher decision than that of Faithlife. I did not know, however, that some of these volumes lack resource links missing. That's disappointing.

NB.Mick · July 2021

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1172986#Comment_1172986

I am someone that would love to buy these volumes, but also find them too expensive. They are rarely on sale and almost never discounted, which my understanding is that this is more of a publisher decision than that of Faithlife.

I still believe the content is excellent - and the BestCommentaries-Sale is a great occasion to buy some of them, given that they don't go on sale outside of that (I think).

The good thing is, should FL decide to update those books (which I would very much like), owners will receive the update for free and automatically.