Search for a nominative noun intended for vocative application

Into Grace

The lemma θεὸς (God) is used 305 times in the New Testament. Because nominative nouns are sometimes used in place of vocatives, how can I perform a search to determine which of these nouns are intended for vocative application in the New Testament? Thanks.

Dave Hooton

Into Grace said:

The lemma θεὸς (God) is used 305 times in the New Testament.

I would say 1307 times in total, but 1294 times for God (depending on the Greek bible).

Into Grace said:

Because nominative nouns are sometimes used in place of vocatives, how can I perform a search to determine which of these nouns are intended for vocative application in the New Testament?

Not sure Logos can determine "intended", but use Morph Search to find the Vocative case  e.g. lemma:θεός@NV (2 results out of 1307 in SBLGNT, 2 / 1317 in NA28))

Into Grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1179141#Comment_1179141

Dave Hooton said:

Into Grace said:

The lemma θεὸς (God) is used 305 times in the New Testament.

I would say 1307 times in total, but 1294 times for God (depending on the Greek bible).

Into Grace said:

Because nominative nouns are sometimes used in place of vocatives, how can I perform a search to determine which of these nouns are intended for vocative application in the New Testament?

Not sure Logos can determine "intended", but use Morph Search to find the Vocative case  e.g. lemma:θεός@NV (2 results out of 1307 in SBLGNT, 2 / 1317 in NA28))

Thanks, Dave.

More specifically, I am searching for lemma:θεός@NNSM

This produces 305 results. How can I determine how many are vocative in application? Thanks again.

Kiyah

Into Grace said:

The lemma θεὸς (God) is used 305 times in the New Testament. Because nominative nouns are sometimes used in place of vocatives, how can I perform a search to determine which of these nouns are intended for vocative application in the New Testament? Thanks.

First, I tried it using the Addressee data: lemma:θεός@NN INTERSECTS {Addressee <Person God>}

However, this included some hits that didn't match your criteria.

Next, I tried using the Syntactic Force tagging: lemma:θεός@NN INTERSECTS (<SGNTSyntacticForce = voc> OR {Section <SGNTSyntacticForce = voc>}) 

The second search returned results that all match your criteria. I used the first search to find some hits and look at the tagging in the context menu. I also looked at the first result (Mark 15:34) in the Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament, SBL Edition: Expansions and Annotations resource (which I've recently discovered is invaluable for these types of questions) and saw that they note that the word 'God' in that verse has Vocative syntactic force even though it's nominative. I then right-clicked on the word 'God' in the NRSV and scrolled down and expanded the Lexham SGNT Syntactic Force tagging and copied the search data for the vocative tag and pasted it into a search window (surrounded by parentheses a shown in the search string above). Voila, I got 9 results in 8 verses in the NA28.

Into Grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1179143#Comment_1179143

Kiyah said:

Into Grace said:

The lemma θεὸς (God) is used 305 times in the New Testament. Because nominative nouns are sometimes used in place of vocatives, how can I perform a search to determine which of these nouns are intended for vocative application in the New Testament? Thanks.

First, I tried it using the Addressee data: lemma:θεός@NN INTERSECTS {Addressee <Person God>}

However, this included some hits that didn't match your criteria.

Next, I tried using the Syntactic Force tagging: lemma:θεός@NN INTERSECTS (<SGNTSyntacticForce = voc> OR {Section <SGNTSyntacticForce = voc>}) 

The second search returned results that all match your criteria. I used the first search to find some hits and look at the tagging in the context menu. I also looked at the first result (Mark 15:34) in the Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament, SBL Edition: Expansions and Annotations resource (which I've recently discovered is invaluable for these types of questions) and saw that they note that the word 'God' in that verse has Vocative syntactic force even though it's nominative. I then right-clicked on the word 'God' in the NRSV and scrolled down and expanded the Lexham SGNT Syntactic Force tagging and copied the search data for the vocative tag and pasted it into a search window (surrounded by parentheses a shown in the search string above). Voila, I got 9 results in 8 verses in the NA28.

Thanks very much, Kiyah. This is exactly what I was after. 

Kiyah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1179144#Comment_1179144

Into Grace said:

Thanks very much, Kiyah. This is exactly what I was after. 

No problem. If you want more words that refer to God in the NT other than just θεὸς, you could also try this search in the Morph tab:

<Person God> INTERSECTS <LogosMorphGr ~ NN???> INTERSECTS (<SGNTSyntacticForce = voc> OR {Section <SGNTSyntacticForce = voc>})

That search picks up a few more results with words like πατήρ (Father), κύριος (Lord), δεσπότης (Sovereign Lord), παντοκράτωρ (Almighty), and βασιλεύς (King). Some of these results overlap with results from the previous search (they appear in the same verse), but a few additional verses were also captured with this search string. I got 18 results in 12 verses in the NA28.

Into Grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1179148#Comment_1179148

Kiyah said:

Into Grace said:

Thanks very much, Kiyah. This is exactly what I was after. 

No problem. If you want more words that refer to God in the NT other than just θεὸς, you could also try this search in the Morph tab:

<Person God> INTERSECTS <LogosMorphGr ~ NN???> INTERSECTS (<SGNTSyntacticForce = voc> OR {Section <SGNTSyntacticForce = voc>})

That search picks up a few more results with words like πατήρ (Father), κύριος (Lord), δεσπότης (Sovereign Lord), παντοκράτωρ (Almighty), and βασιλεύς (King). Some of these results overlap with results from the previous search (they appear in the same verse), but a few additional verses were also captured with this search string. I got 18 results in 12 verses in the NA28.

Thanks again [Y]