Strong's and Goodrick/Kohlenberger

Christian Alexander
Christian Alexander Member Posts: 746
edited November 21 in English Forum

I want to know more about the difference between Strong's Numbers and the Goodrick/Kohlenberger system

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  • Levi Durfey
    Levi Durfey Member Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭

    I found this on the web:

    https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/20024/what-do-the-goodrick-kohlenberger-numbers-represent-what-features-does-this-s




    From the Introduction to the NIV Exhaustive Concordance [NIVEC], with some interspersed commentary:




    Advances in biblical scholarship have made it difficult, if not impossible, to use Strong's century-old system. In the first place, Strong's system indexes only the vocabulary of the original-language texts that underlie the KJV. 

    This means some words in the Biblia Hebraica and even more in the UBS/ Nestle-Aland Greek NT are not covered by Strong's numbers.

    Second, modern analysis of the biblical languages divides many words of identical spelling into two or three or more "homographs" - words with the same spelling but different meanings. 

    Strong did not have separate numbers for these look-alike words.

    This is especially true of biblical Hebrew. Third, Strong mixed the Hebrew and Aramaic ("Chaldee") vocabularies together into one numbering scheme, whereas all modern lexicons and grammars treat them as different languages...

    Finally, unlike the editor of the NASB Concordance who retained the Strong's numbers,

    rather than attempt to patch up Strong's well-worn system, the editors of the NIVEC decided to make a clean break and develop a new standard for use in up-to-date biblical language reference works.


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  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,138

    This might be helpful. Here is an excerpt from the NIDOTTE/NIDNTTE https://www.logos.com/product/129798/new-international-dictionary-of-theology-and-exegesis-old-and-new-testament-nidotte-nidntte

    The Goodrick-Kohlenberger numbers are an updating of the popular Strong’s numbers, done in the 1980s by Ed Goodrick and John Kohlenberger III because of deficiencies in the Strong’s numbering system.

    Silva, M. (Ed.). (2014). New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology and Exegesis (Second Edition, Vol. 5, p. 7). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan.

    Here is a helpful thread discussing this about a year ago - https://community.logos.com/forums/t/196752.aspx

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,682

    I want to know more about the difference between Strong's Numbers and the Goodrick/Kohlenberger system

    In Logos, you can only search Bibles with Strong's numbers, but it is more accurate to search with lemmas, especially in Hebrew which has many homonyms. Cornerstone Bible Commentary and Expositor's Bible Commentary are the only resources with GK references in my Library, but milestones can be found in at least three lexicons, alongside Strong's numbers.

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  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 746
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1185005#Comment_1185005

    I want to know more about the difference between Strong's Numbers and the Goodrick/Kohlenberger system

    In Logos, you can only search Bibles with Strong's numbers, but it is more accurate to search with lemmas, especially in Hebrew which has many homonyms. Cornerstone Bible Commentary and Expositor's Bible Commentary are the only resources with GK references in my Library, but milestones can be found in at least three lexicons, alongside Strong's numbers.

    Thanks. This led me to another question. I will post later

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