Old Testament use of the OT

Mike Tourangeau
Mike Tourangeau Member Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I am interested in intertextual development in the OT (I.e. - How themes develop etc) I have Beale and Carson on the NT use of the OT. 

Is this something similar? Can anyone comment on it's usefulness?

https://www.logos.com/product/190419/old-testament-use-of-old-testament-a-book-by-book-guide 

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  • Mike Tourangeau
    Mike Tourangeau Member Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭

    I decided to buy it to check it out.....I like what I see. I will leave this thread here in case anyone has any other recommendations 

  • Paul Caneparo
    Paul Caneparo Member Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭
  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,837 ✭✭✭

    After reading the samples and reading some reviews I decided not to buy it.  Taken from Amazon:

    Academic Work from a Western Perspective

    Reviewed in the United States on August 25, 2021

    “After reading the introduction and reviewing portions of this book, it doesn't appear to be so much about biblical depth as superficial literary, possible theological, analysis. It may be comprehensive in that it covers the entire Old Testament. However, not so much in its interpretative approach culturally, historically, or socially. The OT is referenced as "Israel's Scripture" and suggests the OT isn't as substantial to NT interpretation or theological systems for the Non-Hebrew. The language is on par with under/grad level scholarship. In other words, it is technically dense reading. Furthermore, the focus isn't working so much in or with Hebraic thought as much as a crossword approach to Hebrew word connections. It is comparable to touring the Holy Land with a Western Christian as a guide. Overall, I see this working as a starting point for Western Christians/Scholars toward the language literature familiarity. In my opinion, this doesn't qualify as an interpretative resource but is good for informative purposes. In my opinion, this work barely qualifies as an interpretative resource but is good for informative purposes, even if the information is biased and westernized. A Lexicon and Concordance would likely provide more pertinent and accurate information. While probably very useful for some, I do not see this serving the purpose of lay or personal spiritual development.”

    This review might be subjective, but it’s right on point so the book wouldn’t be useful, to me at least.

    DAL

    Ps. I’d be interested in hearing how much and how those who bought are actually using it, if they’re really using it. It looks like one of those resources most people buy just to have it as an every once in a blue moon reference.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭

    DAL said:

    After reading the samples and reading some reviews I decided not to buy it.  Taken from Amazon:

    ......

    This review might be subjective, but it’s right on point so the book wouldn’t be useful, to me at least.

    DAL

    Ps. I’d be interested in hearing how much and how those who bought are actually using it, if they’re really using it. It looks like one of those resources most people buy just to have it as an every once in a blue moon reference.

    Well, I guess you don't dream, like Craig (Evens) dreams. 

    But I agree with you. I suspect for sermon prep, it'd be good, though my Bibles have the same cross-refs. Pass ... too much modern-Christian frosting.

  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,067

    DAL said:

    good for informative purposes

    I bought it some time ago and did check some parts to get an idea which book is after which book. It is interesting that those books actually refer earlier books. Anyway, one has to read the book with some healthy critical lens.

    It would be interesting to have a similar work about NT quoting NT - or actually how Gospels are quoted by the rest of NT, and vice versa.  

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  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    I use the OT use of OT in a lot of research papers I do in seminary as well as my current group Bible study on Proverbs. Yes, this work is more informative than analytical and lexical in nature. I like to see the groundwork before I go into the dirt. I do appreciate Schnittjer’s tables and figures in the book. It’s hard to describe them well here, but there are many tables that compare two very similar OT texts. There are line charts that draw lines from several OT texts to other OT texts to show relationships. And at the beginning of every chapter there is a table that very briefly gives every OT reference in the OT specific OT book.  I am curious to know if there is a book similar to this one on the NT use of the NT.