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Using COM API to automate a complex search

Tim Engwer

I would like to be able to automate the process of right clicking a word in an interlinear bible and extracting the English word, Greek, word and strongs # and combining them into a search that also includes the scripture reference. An example would be the following from John 15:4 (abide OR <Lemma = lbs/el/μένω> OR <GreekStrongs = #3306>) AND <bible = Jn 15:4>. I have put this in as a suggestion elsewhere for a quick right click menu item but in the meantime could someone construct an example script using the COM API that would do this for me automatically? I'm not sure if a search can be automated from COM but if not then if someone could just create a script that puts the search terms in a variable that can be used in a search engine I can do the rest.

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JimTowler

Hi Tim,

Sadly, in my view, the COM API is interesting, but is not currently actually useful for much. It can not do the kinds of things you ask above.

You may be able to get the raw inputs from the Windows Clipboard. First turn on all the Interlinear layers, then select and copy the text in question. The Clipboard will have some of the bits you need. The COM API could get the verse ref, but it can't get the lemma, Strongs number etc.

If you do a Copy of Ref, then a Copy of Selection, the Clipboard will hve received most anything you can get your hands on. Your application needs to capture BOTH updates and use them both as best it is able.

Once you have the raw stuff, you can drive Logos4 with a URI such as follows:

logos4:Search;kind=Basic;q=(abide_OR_$3CLemma_$3D_lbs$2Fel$2F$CE$BC$CE$AD$CE$BD$CF$89$3E_OR_$3CGreekStrongs_$3D_$233306$3E)_AND_$3Cbible_$3D_Jn_15:4$3E

This can be feed to the WIndows Shell without needing to use the COM API, or it can be done withthe COM API, and send the URI to the ExecuteURI() method.

Again, sadly, the COM API has no direct access to the richer kinds of things that would support what you are after. The best that can be done is to use both the Clipboard AND the COM API, so you get some inputs from each place. If you write your application to add itself to the Windows Clipboard Update chain, you get an event whenever the Clipboard updates. This can be used to automate or reduce a few mouse or key clicks.

My hope is that Logos will improve the COM API so it can be more useful. For now, you can do most of what its able to do with just URIs and the Windows Shell. (Which is more a great credit to the URI features of Logos4 than of the weak API.)

Tim Engwer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154210#Comment_154210

If you do a Copy of Ref, then a Copy of Selection, the Clipboard will hve received most anything you can get your hands on.

When I select the word in question in the interlinear (using NASB with all fields of interlinear toggled) I can only get one piece of information at a time depending on what I select when I right click. right clicking lemma and then copying gets me the lemma. right clicking the selection gets me the english word etc. Is there a way to get all this information at once? "Copy of Ref" (I'm assuming you mean the reference selection on the right of the right click menu) gets me the whole verse.

JimTowler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154214#Comment_154214

Tim,

The WIndows Clipboard often holds multiple different versions of the same thing at any given time. The HTML one seems to be the best open format present after a copy-selection from Logos4.

If you enable the full-screen (inline) Interlinear in NASB95, and right click on "abide", and copy the selection to the Clipboard, then the following kinds of data can be extracted:

"abide"
greek surface text (?) I'm guessing - its %;">Î¼ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Ï„Îµ</ in the viewer I'm using. Seems its not defaulting to a Unicode font, but the data is in the Clipboard.
"meinate"
Lemma(?)
"menÅ"

VAAM2P

85.55
3306

Copy the ref and you get: "

The COM API can't get access to any of this. Clipboard is your friend, until/unless the API gets improved and made useful for these kinds of things.

John 15:4 (NASB95)" etc.

JimTowler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154254#Comment_154254

Ops - sorry about the formatting above. I tried to fix it and it gets worse. I'll let it stand as is ...

In short, you need to do multiple different copies to the Clipboard, and be selective on what formats you extract, to get the full story.

I wish the API could get its hands on this data ...

JimTowler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154255#Comment_154255

Pasting into Word gets the following per the graphic.

You still need the two different copies (Selection and Ref) to get this data, AND the verse ref.

EDIT: With this above, from a Select then Control+C, AND with the Panel Navigation event sent to the COM API, you do in fact get everything you need to create the search syntax that could be sent back into Logos4 per the URI in my earlier response. You need BOTH the API and the Clipboard to pull this off.

Tim Engwer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154256#Comment_154256

Thanks very much! I think just one of those options has everything I need. I use autoit for my scripting and I believe I can use it to separate out the different parts and then put them togehter in a search term that will work.