Request: 4.1B3: Print Preview: Use these sections design

So far, I like the new Print Preview "Use these sections:" as a way of controlling what to include.

HOWEVER, I am used to some applications, a select/unselect of a higher-level to then include all below. Also, if only some of the lower levels are selected, the higher-level boxes are shaded, rather than plain ON or OFF.

Is it possible this design could act more in keeping with what is "normal" in other applications?

For those that know, what is the "normal" way an Apple application would tend to work for this kind of UI?

What do others think?

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Aaron Sauer

[Y]

Ken Shawver

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154247#Comment_154247

[Y][Y]

My other question is why is there a limit on the number of pages?

JimTowler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154266#Comment_154266

My other question is why is there a limit on the number of pages?

Maybe Copyright?

I would not be surprised to find smaller limits, maybe by Publisher, so Logos is not at risk of being unable to get rights to some works.

If it came to a choice, I'd accept limits on printing or exporting before I would want to go without resources from Publisher X or Y.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154269#Comment_154269

Good observations everyone. Quite pleased with the print capabilities, it was worth the wait.

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154312#Comment_154312

[B][Y][:P]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154328#Comment_154328

Furthermore, if you select a higher-level section (e.g. New Testament Articles), the checkboxes for its lower-level subsections are not automatically selected. This almost looks like a bug.

Jack Caviness

For those that know, what is the "normal" way an Apple application would tend to work for this kind of UI?

Pretty much the same. I also agree with your recommendation.

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154348#Comment_154348

Agreed....this makes sense...

Dave Hooton

HOWEVER, I am used to some applications, a select/unselect of a higher-level to then include all below. Also, if only some of the lower levels are selected, the higher-level boxes are shaded, rather than plain ON or OFF.

The rather simple example and analogy given would lead me to agree but I cannot support the idea for the more variable & more complex hierarchies that occur in TOC's of over 8 000 resources! For example:-

1. Dictionaries that alphabetise their articles (Harper, Vine's, Mounce, etc.)

Eat
Edge
Empty
....
....

Over 90 articles in Mounce

2. Bibles (ESV in particular)

Genesis

Introduction
Ch 1
Ch 2
...
...

50 chapters

Currently the top level functions as a print heading and its selection does not affect that of subordinate items. I'd like to retain that simplicity (although I've asked Logos elsewhere to clarify using top level as print heading). I'm satisfied with ON/OFF!

JimTowler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154370#Comment_154370

... but I cannot support the idea ...

Is it that you don't want the all/nothing aspect, or is this about wanting to be able to control headings?

(It seems there are two different and conflicting aspects here. I want optional heading, chapters, verses numbers etc too.)

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154375#Comment_154375

Is it that you don't want the all/nothing aspect, or is this about wanting to be able to control headings?

(It seems there are two different and conflicting aspects here. I want optional heading, chapters, verses numbers etc too.)

Unless I'm missing something don't we already have this with the new print feature in Beta 3?

If you want a specific portion of the text highlight it and use the "use selected text". If you want the entire chapter, including the headings then select the chapter.

It seems to me that the new feature is simply making it easier to print entire chapters (or multiple chapters) so that we do not have to highlight everything.

It would be nice if the range field in the print /export screen would allow for multiple verses or passages. (e.g. Genesis 3:15 AND John 3:16, etc). But I do not need that to be in a selection tree, I just need the ability to make the multiple entry in the range field.

Ken Shawver

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154269#Comment_154269

If it came to a choice, I'd accept limits on printing or exporting before I would want to go without resources from Publisher X or Y.

Jim I agree with you, but it would be nice if it was just stated that you could only export "X" number of pages. I wouldn't have a problem with that. As stated the functionality is very nice and much better than expected.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154375#Comment_154375

... but I cannot support the idea ...

Is it that you don't want the all/nothing aspect, or is this about wanting to be able to control headings?

(It seems there are two different and conflicting aspects here. I want optional heading, chapters, verses numbers etc too.)

1. I don't favour a top level automatically selecting subordinate items; and

2. I've asked Logos to clarify their intentions wrt headings.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154419#Comment_154419

It seems to me that the new feature is simply making it easier to print entire chapters (or multiple chapters) so that we do not have to highlight everything.

Agreed.

It would be nice if the range field in the print /export screen would allow for multiple verses or passages. (e.g. Genesis 3:15 AND John 3:16, etc). But I do not need that to be in a selection tree, I just need the ability to make the multiple entry in the range field.

I also thought that would be "nice" but then I thought that we have Clippings, Handouts & Notes to manage our organisation of material.