Yes, I know some references on Noahide law/covenant but none from a Protestant perspective. What resources would you recommend?
In O. Palmer Robertson's The Christ of the Covenants, Chapter 7 is titled "Noah: The Covenant of Preservation".
In Bruce Waltke's An Old Testament Theology, Chapter 11 is titled "The Gift of the Noahic Covenant".
These are two stellar resources.
Thanks Rosie
A couple of simple blog posts, based on reading Scripture through the lens of the kingdom of God (the perspective central to Jesus):
https://allenbrowne.blog/2016/06/03/human-government-a-concession-genesis-91-6/
https://allenbrowne.blog/2016/06/08/gods-commitment-to-reign-genesis-97-17/
Many commentators on Acts 15:29 see echos of Gen 9:4.
Thanks Allen
I have found Kingdom through Covenant helpful.
https://www.logos.com/product/168847/kingdom-through-covenant-a-biblical-theological-understanding-of-the-covenants-2nd-ed
I'll add that to my wish list.
Check to see if you have an older or abridged edition.
I have this one
https://www.logos.com/product/165962/gods-kingdom-through-gods-covenants-a-concise-biblical-theology
Are you wanting to study the Dispensation vs Covenant debate among Protestants? Do you want to read Scofield?
https://www.logos.com/product/16396/c-i-scofield-collection
This book by Machen just got published.
A Brief Bible History: A Survey of the Old and New Testaments
This little volume surveys the history of God's redeeming grace, by reviewing Old Testament History and disclosing the stream of God's redeeming purposes flowing down through older times. It also covers the historical events of the New Testament, illustrating how God's purposes for humanity in the life of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and his Church.
https://www.logos.com/product/190741/j-gresham-machen-update-including-his-nt-grammar
Are you wanting to study the Dispensation vs Covenant debate among Protestants?
Not really - I was asking because I had been reading a truly awful book on apologetics where the author ignored the impact of Noahide Law from my perspective. I want to verify that he doesn't have a different understanding of Noahide Law to justify the difference. At the moment I am concentrating my energy on the multitude of opinions on what constitutes the rule of faith in various denominations.
I'll check out Machen. Thanks.
Is this of any use?
A college lecture at Reformed Theological Seminary
The Covenant with Noah
Dr. J. Ligon Duncan III
https://subsplash.com/reformtheosem/learn-about-rts/mi/+8a51c0a
I'm studying the larger topic of the covenants in general and I feel like my head is going to pop. Just studying one view is hard enough, but to juggle several views of the whole covenant thing in general, throughout all of time, is just too much.
But paper topics expect students to make a thesis statement and defend it.
I am listening to this song right now. This is what I do when I start getting overwhelmed with these paper topics. I once cited this song in a paper, when I'd just had enough of being prepped to parrot something far above my understanding and definitely not my view. The professor was NOT amused!!!!!! It was worth the low grade. My test scores were high enough to absorb the hit from the paper. My thesis was "It is very simple: faith made perfect = love God and love people." And I meant THAT! I didn't care if he gave me a zero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ8D2Mx7tGg
I'll give it a listen - thanks.
Thanks for pointing it out. I've book marked the whole set of lectures Kathleen from which this one comes.
A college lecture at Reformed Theological Seminary The Covenant with Noah Dr. J. Ligon Duncan III https://subsplash.com/reformtheosem/learn-about-rts/mi/+8a51c0a
This book might be of interest. It is relatively new but I have not read it.
https://www.logos.com/product/198544/covenant-the-framework-of-gods-grand-plan-of-redemption
This site has a multi-part review: https://drreluctant.wordpress.com/2021/09/09/review-of-covenant-by-daniel-i-block-pt-1/
This book might be of interest. It is relatively new but I have not read it. https://www.logos.com/product/198544/covenant-the-framework-of-gods-grand-plan-of-redemption This site has a multi-part review: https://drreluctant.wordpress.com/2021/09/09/review-of-covenant-by-daniel-i-block-pt-1/
Thanks! I added the Logos book to my wishlist, and the link to the review of the book to my bookmarks.
I have long given up trying to come to a conclusion, but am just wallowing around in the different theories and trying to organize the different resources into folders with like resources. I am trying to devote an hour or two a day to these surveys and covenant outlines and timelines. This stuff gives me a headache quicker than some others, because my brain is working so hard to try and organize some of the material into a framework and then hang everything else upon it.
Youtube recently released a free Catholic series that played on EWTN decades ago starring a much younger Jeff Cavins and Scott Hahn. I would LOVE for this older series or more of their more recent work to be included in Logos. There are a few scattered middle pieces that sometimes contradict both the older and newer materials. I'd love to be able to watch a video series, and have the matching text in Logos to continue to use and build upon, later. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi7Z4RS4v0jLKyqqfZYu2-A/videos
Understanding a denomination's views on covenants explains so many on their other beliefs. A lot of academic study builds on the this.
I have been talking to a friend on the phone that was raised conservative Baptist, but later graduated the Teen Challenge recovery program. He thinks he has heard both extremes of the spectrum, and then gets quite upset with me when I start discussing topics based on a covenant system that is not dispensational. That is one of the few "facts" that remained the standard for him, when he felt most divided and confused. To rip that away from him leaves him very ungrounded. It is easier for him to label me so "uneducated" that I have yet to learn the foundational skills needed to identify heresies.
This has been a hard study, but a good one. As long as I step back every once in awhile and remind myself that I only need to know enough to love God and to love people. The "facts" only matter as much as they open the doors necessary for me to understand enough to love enough.
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