In John 5.2, he refers to the pool at the sheep gate in the present tense.
How do I find places where the New Testament historical books refer to past places and things in the present tense?
@VP... plus what?
Trying to make sure I understand what you are looking for
I assume you are referring to the words "there is in" - is that correct?
past places and things
What do you mean by past places and things? Things that were present at the time of writing but no longer there, or something else?
Does John use the present tense to talk about places/things that are gone before he writes?
Jerusalem was destroyed in A.D.70, but John writes as though the sheep gate is there in A.D.100?
How do I search for other texts/authors which use the present tense of places/objects that are gone when they write?
Does John use the present tense to talk about places/things that are gone before he writes? Jerusalem was destroyed in A.D.70, but John writes as though the sheep gate is there in A.D.100? How do I search for other texts/authors which use the present tense of places/objects that are gone when they write?
I can't help with the search, but just to suggest that possibly John did not write in AD 100 but maybe before 70 AD. Don't be sure 100% sure that John wrote in 100AD. I know that's the predominate position, but maybe not correct. Just a thought.
Bob
I can't think of any way of doing that. There is no tagging to indicate the current status of things at the time when written about.
Given the amount of text written in the historical present, is this even theoretically possible?
Thanks everyone[
Does John use the present tense to talk about places/things that are gone before he writes? Jerusalem was destroyed in A.D.70, but John writes as though the sheep gate is there in A.D.100? How do I search for other texts/authors which use the present tense of places/objects that are gone when they write? I can't help with the search, but just to suggest that possibly John did not write in AD 100 but maybe before 70 AD. Don't be sure 100% sure that John wrote in 100AD. I know that's the predominate position, but maybe not correct. Just a thought. Bob
There is a standard dicussion in the "Christian" world about when Jesus was born. One sides nails it as 0AD which anothr side nails it as 4 AD. That 4 years is also carried to the end of the NT with Revelation being written at 96 AD and the other side saying 100 AD. I understand the arguments of both side (which I worked through in years back) and I tend to use the 0 and 96 dates myself.
