NSBT
What is the difference between these two collections?
https://www.logos.com/product/222069/new-studies-in-biblical-theology-series-collection-nsbt
https://www.logos.com/product/206556/new-studies-in-biblical-theology-series-collection-nsbt
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This resource is only in one of them.
@Paul Caneparo If only Logos would be willing to match there competition prices more or less. I really would like to support Logos as what they have software based is better than Olive Tree. But Olive Tree has a huge special on the series but I don’t want a library in Logos and Olive Tree.
Yeah, there's a big difference between $790 and $300. And I don't buy Logos' argument that you're paying for extra tagging when you purchase a Logos title. Every Bible software vendor rigorously tags their resources.
But I did speak with a Logos employee who said you should definitely call. I wouldn't just assume Logos won't give you a deal.
@Mark Allison I am in South Africa unable to call. Have been sending email to sales@logos.com and have not received any response from them as yet.
@Lukas I use the web chat facility to talk to sales.
@Mark Allison There responds: Thank you for contacting Logos.
Unfortunately, we can’t price match. The publishers decide on the price. I am sure that we will get a sale price from them in the new year.
Not necessarily. I work for a pharmacy and depending on the clinic or hospital’s contract that’s how much we charge them for the pharmaceuticals we provide for them. The same applies to publishers when they hire authors or sell books. Royalties vary due contracts. Unless I’m missing something, the same principle applies to a lot of businesses. Same happened when I used to work in a body shop and we used to order parts for cars. We got them cheaper than other body shops in the area.
DAL
I worked for Accordance, and Zondervan or Baker (for example) charged the same percentage of royalties regardless of who was distributing their product. You'll notice that's why some publishers get their resources developed quickly, and others, not so much. If a publisher wants 30%, their stuff is going to be made available quicker than a publisher that wants 50%. That's the same regardless of whether it's Accordance, Logos, OliveTree, or Laridian.
@Mark Allison I’ve been wrong before. Maybe is not in Logos’s best interest to match prices and that’s why they don’t bother contacting publishers to match prices. While there’s tagging involved in Logos books as opposed to a kindle book, I’ve never really seen that as a valid reason not to match prices. To me it’s better to match a price and sell than not to sell at all, but in my job, contracts are in place to avoid changing prices all the time. So there might be something we don’t know. Maybe Mansfield can fill us in 😁
I'd think the big Logos package discounts impact the publishers' negotiated royalties and pricing.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
How do these contracts work? 30% of what are they charging the royalties on? Who determines the selling price of the resource? Do the contracts state what price the vendor is supposed to sell the resource at, or does the vendor have freedom to set the price? If the former, is every vendor (Accordance, Logos, OliveTree, or Laridian) supposed to sell at that very same price? As an Accordance employee, were you privy to the asking price for a resource for vendors other than Accordance?
@DAL Happy New Year to you. I use the web chat facility, but didn't know about the WhatsApp. Where can I find the number as I can't see it on the contacts page - maybe it's not generally shared.
The publisher gets a percentage of the selling price. The contract specifies the price that the resource will sell for, and the Bible software vendor needs to get permission from the publisher to put a resource on sale. BTW, there are some resources that are not available in any Bible software app because the publisher wants too high of a percentage. If you've ever requested a resource and never seen it developed, that's probably why.
When I worked with publishers at Accordance, they would usually tell me the percentage they were getting from other Bible software vendors. And friends at other Bible software vendors would confirm. That wasn't my primary job at Accordance, but I handled most of the Bibles, and often dealt with those contracts.
It's interesting how different areas of the world operate. What you describe would be illegal in Europe. The vendor can chose what price to sell for and the supplier (publisher in this case) has no say. Additionally the supplier isn't allowed to gain competitor knowledge via the vendor or the competitor. (Of course in Europe the supplier can offer improved terms so the vendor can run a promotion.)
I tried whatsapping this number but I get automated reply options in Spanish🤨
@Roger Pitot the same here Spanish automated reply with options to choose from.
The NSBT is actually on sale now for $6.99 each. It's part of their Hot Buys sale but I can't seem to find any link to the sale. I only noticed when browsing one of the books.
Here's a link to the series (which is not on sale), but it shows all the titles (at least, most of them).
Buy the individual volumes you want. $6.99 is the best price I've ever seen and better than buying a whole set which may include volumes you'll never use.