Help with Understanding Search Clauses

Matt Leonard

Hey everyone,

Very quick question regarding Search Clauses,

Why when I type: 

place: gethsemane person: jesus

Does it only find two verse, but when I just search on gethsemane it finds four.

All four verses are about Jesus in Gethsemane, so I don't understand why it doesn't show all four.

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Also,

I'm trying to understand the difference between 'object' and 'thing'.

Many thanks,

Matt

John Connell

This is what I get when I conduct the two searched you mention. Can you post a screen shot of your results?

-john

Graham Criddle

Matt Leonard said:

Does it only find two verse, but when I just search on gethsemane it finds four.

All four verses are about Jesus in Gethsemane, so I don't understand why it doesn't show all four.

It's to do with clause structures - below I show the search with just Gethsemane and a clausal analysis next to it

As you can see - in this example - there are two clauses that mention Gethsemane in Matt 26:36 with the sub clause only mentioning Gethsemane and not Jesus. So both are returned when searching for just Gethsemane but only the first when adding Jesus to the search as well.

Matt Leonard said:

I'm trying to understand the difference between 'object' and 'thing'.

From the Logos help file:

object — An entity acting as a direct object of the clause

• object-lemma — A lemma in an direct object of the clause

• object-lemma-sense — The word sense of a direct object of the clause

• object-surface — An original-language word in the text indicating the clause’s direct object

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• thing — A thing mentioned in the clause

 Logos Help (Bellingham, WA: Faithlife, 2018).

Some words are specifically tagged as Things - as shown below - and the Clause Search enables searching on those

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1199846#Comment_1199846

Hi John

John Connell said:

This is what I get when I conduct the two searched you mention. Can you post a screen shot of your results?

I believe Matt is doing a Clause Search as opposed to a Bible Search which is why he is getting different results from you.

John Connell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1199851#Comment_1199851

Thanks Graham, 

Makes sense that I couldn't reproduce it.

-john