Thinking of switching - question

Pete Killingley

Hi there?  I'm thinking of switching to use Logos more.  Currently on Logos 7 but willing to upgrade if the features I want are there.

The first thing I do in preparing a sermon is to copy the text of the passage to Microsoft OneNote (one verse per line), then start writing notes all over it.  Highlighting words, drawing connecting lines, handwriting observations.

Is there any feature in Logos 9 that would replicate this functionality?

Thanks for any advice!!

Mike Binks

There are various tools in Logos that might help depending on the Base Library that you have installed.

Check out the support stuff here

Note that there is no downside to upgrading to the free version of Logos 9 you will not loose any resources of any work.

Pete Killingley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204225#Comment_1204225

Thanks, will keep exploring

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204230#Comment_1204230

I'd think your only explore, is your pc/Mac .... can it run L9?  Most users found L9 more efficient than L7, so the free upgrade would benefit you, no matter.

Your verse diagrams probably would remain on One Note ... tools such as Canvas, etc aren't tremedously efficient, not intuitive. Sermons was the biggie for new functionality.

David Thomas

Pete Killingley said:

Is there any feature in Logos 9 that would replicate this functionality?

I use the Canvas tool in Logos for this:

Pete Killingley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204241#Comment_1204241

Thanks!  I took the plunge and have started playing around with the canvas tool and you're right, it's not very intuitive.  Doesn't let me copy entire chapters when inserting text, and doesn't let me do it one verse per line!

(Windows)

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204250#Comment_1204250

If.... and again I say "IF" you came from Wordsearch... and have access to ZipScript.... ZipScript pastes into Canvas smoothly from my Bible.

I am still hoping... praying... that Logos will see fit to make ZipScript work with Bibles in Logos...   [8-|]

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204250#Comment_1204250

Pete Killingley said:

Doesn't let me copy entire chapters

Which Chapter did your try? I just did all of Genesis 5

Pete Killingley said:

doesn't let me do it one verse per line!

By clicking on the verse number or word [see blue box around v.9] you can start a new line and indent wherever you choose. Clicking on the text block (so that a blue line appears in left and right margin) you can stretch the text beyond a single page so that you get as long of a line of text as you wish. (notice the faint dotted vertical line which shows where the page break would be if printing.)

Pete Killingley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204352#Comment_1204352

Thanks David!

I was trying Numbers 14 (what I'm preaching this week).  I wonder if the issue is with the length of the chapter?  Tried another long one, John 8, and had the same problem.

Justin Gatlin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204362#Comment_1204362

I find canvas more or less useless but use the sentence diagram tool every week. It lets you set up a reverse interlinear and outline your text. Then I print it and annotate it on paper (just a personal preference) but I have also printed it as a PDF and annotated that before on my iPad. 

Justin Gatlin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204362#Comment_1204362

Here is an example of the sentence diagram. I have a long wishlist for it, but since I think I am one of the three people who still uses it, I try not to make too many sudden movements or loud noises. 
I can change the font color of important verbs and their subjects (I ctrl+click all of the main verbs and any subordinate ones I want to pay attention to, then click "Text" and red, then go back and do the same thing to make their subjects blue). You can see that the pencil tool is the sloppiest part. Where the arc is symmetrical, the program neatly smooths it. When it isn't, it will make a random guess and you have to ctrl+z to turn it back into what you want. You can click the text tool to put brackets around conjunctions. I can also go through and select words that I want to make sure to study and/or explain and put them in a different font to draw attention to them. In my regular workflow, I actually print it and highlight them.
It isn't as pretty as Canvas, but I find it much more functional.

Justin Gatlin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204365#Comment_1204365

Here is a short video (no audio) of me starting to diagram a text with the Sentence Diagram tool. Hopefully it will be clearer than my explanation above.

https://youtu.be/Il0f74dljp8 

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1204362#Comment_1204362

Pete Killingley said:

I was trying Numbers 14 (what I'm preaching this week).  I wonder if the issue is with the length of the chapter?

Agreed, I got the same result with Num 14. By doing 3 "insert passage" (Num 14; Num 14:19-38; Num 14 39-45) I was able to get the whole chapter on one Canvas that could then be manipulated as a Text Flow Diagram (my Preference). I have also used the Sentence Diagramming tool that Justin describes so well. I love having the option to do either and select the one that is most efficient for my purpose.