NIV Study Bible?
Before I bought my hard copy ESV Study Bible (BTW, I'm VERY glad that The ESV Study Bible Notes now have a ship date!), I used to use my NIV Study Bible quite a bit.
I read in another post that there had been some friction between Logos and Zondervan (?) that may now be resolved. Does this mean that we might look forward to an NIV Study Bible Notes product in the (near?) future?
Does anyone else have any interest in such a product?
What about study bible notes from other popular and/or "classic" study bibles?
Thanks!
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Yes, I'd love to see the NIV Study Bible notes. That was my standard Bible for years.
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Thomas Wooded said:
Does anyone else have any interest in such a product?
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Thomas Wooded said:What about study bible notes from other popular and/or "classic" study bibles?
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I've expressed interest in it several times. I even contacted Zondervan a few months ago.
Me: "Will the NIV Study Bible be released for Logos? If so, will it be available as a stand-alone product or in a package, or both?
I'm
also interested to know if there will be an Old Testament study package
with something like the NIV Study Bible, NIDOTTE, and the illustrated
OT Bible Backgrounds commentary?"Zondervan replied: "I am sorry, but Zondervan does not have this
information. You would need to contact Logos. The only information
that I have available is what is on their web site.
http://www.logos.com/zondervan"So either their rep was totally clueless, or Zondervan isn't making its own packages or decisions about what to release, which would surprise me.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Do you think we can expect NIV Study Bible coming to Logos or we are to expect all new NIV and possibly new NIV Study Bible in a near future? New NIV should be here in 2011, if I am not mistaken.
Bohuslav
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Ben said:
So either their rep was totally clueless, or Zondervan isn't making its own packages or decisions about what to release, which would surprise me.
Or, the rep is just being intentionally evasive (that might be "official policy" while negotiations are going on). And, yes, I would also be surprised if Zondervan were not involved in decisions involving its own products.
Fred
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I'm thinking that since the NIVSB was Zondervan's "off the shelf" entry level Pradis product, it would only make sense that we will see it in Logos.
Perhaps it will be available when Zondervan releases their boxed retail version of Logos...
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Thomas Wooded said:
Before I bought my hard copy ESV Study Bible (BTW, I'm VERY glad that The ESV Study Bible Notes now have a ship date!), I used to use my NIV Study Bible quite a bit.
I read in another post that there had been some friction between Logos and Zondervan (?) that may now be resolved. Does this mean that we might look forward to an NIV Study Bible Notes product in the (near?) future?
Does anyone else have any interest in such a product?
What about study bible notes from other popular and/or "classic" study bibles?
Thanks!
Peace and Joy in the Lord to you, Thomas! *smile*
Concordia Publishing House has the NIV Study Bible adapted with some Luther and Lutheran Comments at a reasonable price. It is essentiallly the NIV Study Bible, perhaps 90 Plus %. There is a little + indicated where there is a Lutheran note or comment. Each book of the Bible also has a paragraphy of what Luther thought about it at the very beginning of the chapter.
Excellent resource.
http://www.logos.com/products/details/1744
Yours in Christ,
........ Mel
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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I assume that Z will introduce a new revised NIVSB with the introduction of the new 2011 version of the NIV, since that is their signature product. It is probably in the works right now at Z.
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Milford Charles Murray said:
Concordia Publishing House has the NIV Study Bible adapted with some Luther and Lutheran Comments at a reasonable price. It is essentiallly the NIV Study Bible, perhaps 90 Plus %. There is a little + indicated where there is a Lutheran note or comment. Each book of the Bible also has a paragraphy of what Luther thought about it at the very beginning of the chapter.
Excellent resource.
http://www.logos.com/products/details/1744
Yours in Christ,
........ Mel
Mel, I had not known that. thank you! I assume it does not include maps and such, does it?
Edwin Bowden said:I assume that Z will introduce a
new revised NIVSB with the introduction of the new 2011 version of the
NIV, since that is their signature product. It is probably in the works
right now at Z.I wondered that, too. But then, it took Crossway a few years from the publishing of the ESV to the release of their SB. I would imagine that if Z were releasing a brand new SB, it would take a few years after the full translation appears. I would think a new SB would be in order a) because of the new translation and b) to compete more "freshly" with the excellent ESVSB
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:Milford Charles Murray said:
Concordia Publishing House has the NIV Study Bible adapted with some Luther and Lutheran Comments at a reasonable price. It is essentiallly the NIV Study Bible, perhaps 90 Plus %. There is a little + indicated where there is a Lutheran note or comment. Each book of the Bible also has a paragraphy of what Luther thought about it at the very beginning of the chapter.
Excellent resource.
http://www.logos.com/products/details/1744
Yours in Christ,
........ Mel
Mel, I had not known that. thank you! I assume it does not include maps and such, does it?
Edwin Bowden said:I assume that Z will introduce a new revised NIVSB with the introduction of the new 2011 version of the NIV, since that is their signature product. It is probably in the works right now at Z.
I wondered that, too. But then, it took Crossway a few years from the publishing of the ESV to the release of their SB. I would imagine that if Z were releasing a brand new SB, it would take a few years after the full translation appears. I would think a new SB would be in order a) because of the new translation and b) to compete more "freshly" with the excellent ESVSB
The Charts are there! The maps are not ....
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Milford Charles Murray said:
The Charts are there! The maps are not ....
the charts are more helpful, anyway, for the most part. Thanks!
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:Milford Charles Murray said:
The Charts are there! The maps are not ....
the charts are more helpful, anyway, for the most part. Thanks!
Am trying to attach a page from the Concordia Study Bible .... John 1 is a basic example, I would think ........ Note, for instance, verse 9 - there's a "cross" there .. that is a Concordia note .. if you have a print copy of the NIV, you might want to compare ...
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:
New NIV should be here in 2011
HAAAARUUUUMPH! New NIV? New NIV?!!!! If the old NIV was good enough for Jesus and St. Paul, it is good enough for me!
Has word usage and vocabulary changed so that the NIV is no longer easily understood? Have they discovered places where the translation is incorrect and can be improved? Or is this just a sales gimmick.
Not that I don't like new translations. I am not just stuck in the past (even if I don't think a decent song has been written since 1975.) I certainly think that the New Living Translation is a vast improvement over the old Living Bible, and it at least deserves the title "Translation". I even like the New RSV somewhat. I like the Message paraphrase for devotional reading. But I really don't want them messing with my NIV or my NASV for that matter.
Okay, I will give the New New International Version at try, but I won't like it. It has to be a plot - a conspiracy!
And yes, I would love to have the NIV Study Bible notes - so long as they are the OLD NIV Study Bible notes, and not some new fangled fad.
HAAARUUUUMPH!
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Michael Childs said:
Has word usage and vocabulary changed so that the NIV is no longer easily understood?
"Samson answered her, “If anyone ties me with seven fresh thongs that have not been dried, I’ll become as weak as any other man.” Then the rulers of the Philistines brought her seven fresh thongs that had not been dried, and she tied him with them. With men hidden in the room, she called to him, “Samson, the Philistines are upon you!” But he snapped the thongs as easily as a piece of string snaps when it comes close to a flame. So the secret of his strength was not discovered"
Judges 16:7–9
I can't help but imagine the "mind picture" some will get when they think of wet, non-fresh thongs...
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Thomas Wooded said:
Before I bought my hard copy ESV Study Bible (BTW, I'm VERY glad that The ESV Study Bible Notes now have a ship date!), I used to use my NIV Study Bible quite a bit.
I read in another post that there had been some friction between Logos and Zondervan (?) that may now be resolved. Does this mean that we might look forward to an NIV Study Bible Notes product in the (near?) future?
Does anyone else have any interest in such a product?
I've been asking for this for years, I've even typed in a lot of the NIVSB notes as notes in L3. I would love to see it in L4. Stek's intro and notes on the Psalms alone would be worth what we're paying for the ESV Study Bible notes (IMHO, of course).
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Thanks Paul. That one makes me smile.
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Paul Golder said:
I can't help but imagine the "mind picture" some will get when they think of wet, non-fresh thongs...
It'll depend on whether they speak UK/Commonwealth English...
or American...
(um, I won't be illustrating that one for you; it wouldn't get past the forum censor software, I'm sure)
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Paul Golder said:
"Samson answered her, “If anyone ties me with seven fresh thongs that have not been dried, I’ll become as weak as any other man.” Then the rulers of the Philistines brought her seven fresh thongs that had not been dried, and she tied him with them. With men hidden in the room, she called to him, “Samson, the Philistines are upon you!” But he snapped the thongs as easily as a piece of string snaps when it comes close to a flame. So the secret of his strength was not discovered"
. . . my hearty laugh of the day, I thank you for!
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Thomas Wooded said:
NIV Study Bible Notes product in the (near?) future?
I would like to have their NIV Serendipity Bible. This is also a good study Bible.
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Any update on the NIV SB. I would like this resource in Logos4.
Hans
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tom collinge said:Thomas Wooded said:
NIV Study Bible Notes product in the (near?) future?
I would like to have their NIV Serendipity Bible. This is also a good study Bible.
Surprising Logos doesn't have that. Also, I'd like to see the Quest SB.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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HansK said:
Any update on the NIV SB. I would like this resource in Logos4.
Hans
By this Zondervan press release, it looks like the NIV SB may be going to WORDsearch...
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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I would like to see the Life in the Spirit study bible.
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Pastor Jesse Blevins said:
I would like to see the Life in the Spirit study bible.
You may get more attention from Logos for this request if you started a new thread under suggestions. I have this study Bible in paper, but it is bulky and I haven't used it much. Now days I spend less time with paper books. I might use it a lot more if it was available in Logos.
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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I hope to have it too.
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I have never really understood the need to have study Bibles ported to Logos, the genre is useful in printed form but with the ability to link to commentaries of whatever depth you feel like I do not understand the need for study bible notes in Logos unless you are very commentary light.
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Mike Pettit said:
I have never really understood the need to have study Bibles ported to Logos, the genre is useful in printed form but with the ability to link to commentaries of whatever depth you feel like I do not understand the need for study bible notes in Logos unless you are very commentary light.
Mike, I am generally with you. I don't refer to them that often. However, here are a few reasons to depart from that (some that are my own considerations, some which are others')
- you get their quality maps and charts (ESV SB, eg)
- you get quality articles (again, ESVSB) that are good and thorough on their own
- you can link it up with daily Bible reading and just get quick insight as you read your Bible. Think about using that on an iPad in church, or for devotions, for instance. Rather than wading through a commentary.
- A persons commentary section is weak and out-dated. no coin for new sets . . . [:O]
Anyway, a couple ideas why a person might want it.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Mike Pettit said:
I have never really understood the need to have study Bibles ported to Logos, the genre is useful in printed form but with the ability to link to commentaries of whatever depth you feel like I do not understand the need for study bible notes in Logos unless you are very commentary light.
Agreed. I've found the study Bibles in Logos to be lackluster by comparison with commentaries....
"I read dead people..."
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Mike Pettit said:
I have never really understood the need to have study Bibles ported to Logos,
When you are developing study materials it is very handy to have what participant's will have in their hands at your fingertips.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
When you are developing study materials it is very handy to have what participant's will have in their hands at your fingertips.
Post Scofield era, I've never taught a group that all had the same study Bible. These days, its rare for half the learners to have the same translation. [:P]
"I read dead people..."
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Brother Mark said:
These days, its rare for half the learners to have the same translation.
This is not my experience. NAB and NRSV pretty much covers it - despite my love of NJB and the Community Bible.
Brother Mark said:Post Scofield era, I've never taught a group that all had the same study Bible
Although there is some variation, I can easily choose a representative sample ... an advantage to being Catholic[;)]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I was going to purchase the Concordia notes just to find that they are no longer available.... [:(]
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Since this thread mysteriously came back to life, here is something to look forward to
"Along with Don Carson, Desmond Alexander, and Rick Hess, I am editing a completely new NIV Study Bible." - Douglas Moo
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Geo Philips said:
Since this thread mysteriously came back to life, here is something to look forward to
"Along with Don Carson, Desmond Alexander, and Rick Hess, I am editing a completely new NIV Study Bible." - Douglas Moo
Yes! [Y]
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Finally! Now we will know what the Bible really means!
(at least looking at it from an American Evangelical perspective that leans more to the Reformed side)
[;)]
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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David Taylor Jr said:
I was going to purchase the Concordia notes just to find that they are no longer available....
sure? http://www.logos.com/product/18559/concordia-electronic-theological-library-collection-1
We had a small group (okay, mostly me) ferreting out the differences of CSSB to NIV SB and putting them into Community Notes: https://faithlife.com/concordia-self-study-bible-users/about
Have joy in the Lord!
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Peace, Mick! *smile* Welcome back from your vacation; and I trust that it was a Blessing for you and your Loved Ones, eh???
I remember being part of your group -- and I do hope -- when my life gets a bit more manageable -- to get back there ..... and to a few other FaithLife groups ...
*smile*
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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https://www.logos.com/product/192576/niv-study-bible-notes
Please make these notes available for international users!
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HansK said:
https://www.logos.com/product/192576/niv-study-bible-notes
Please make these notes available for international users!
Yes please
tootle pip
Mike
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The crazy thing is international users are allowed to buy:
NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible Notes (NIVBTSB) | Logos Bible Software previously branded as NIV Zondervan Study Bible. The title was changed I think because people were getting confused between this and the original NIV Study Bible.
However, in the UK Hodder and Stoughton publish the NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible under its old name the NIV Zondervan Study Bible (Anglicised).
Other Bible software companies don't have the issues of international rights that Logos have...
Case in point I could not purchase the New Jerusalem Bible from Logos, so I purchased from Wordsearch. Then Logos aquired Wordsearch and I was able to transferred it over.[:)]
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HansK said:
https://www.logos.com/product/192576/niv-study-bible-notes
Please make these notes available for international users!
It is available to some international users (Australia, NZ, Canada & South Africa). Thankfully i fall into one of the accepted countries so i will pick it up in case that changes.
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