Lexham grammar book by Aubrey and Aubrey shows in wrong category

Dan Phillips

I just stumbled across Greek Prepositions in the New Testament: A Cognitive-Functional Description, by Rachel and Michael Aubrey.

I've probably never noticed it because, though it's a grammar book, it is categorized as a lexicon. So it doesn't show up in Search All Grammars — though the similar Prepositions and Theology by Murray Harris does! Instead, it's hidden under Lexicons with the indecipherable GPNT:CFD.

How can this get included in Search All Grammars searches, where it belongs?

Doug Mangum (Lexham)

I don't have anything to do with how resources are classified. I'm just someone who's used the Aubrey resource some. It seemed to me to be more like a lexicon than a grammar. The Harris book is similar though he seems to offer lengthier discussions than the Aubreys have. When I've used it, it's been as a lexicon. I suppose it can be tricky how to classify resources that aren't purely one thing or another. What would you "Search All Grammars" for and expect to get? Asking because I really want to know. I've not tried to "Search All Grammars" for anything before.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1223363#Comment_1223363

I suppose it can be tricky how to classify resources that aren't purely one thing or another.

Just to cloud the issue, the ILNTG:APAPRCP (an actual library abbreviation; good luck finding it in your library) is classed as a lexicon also, and provides a similar prepositional description structure (though considerably abbreviated). Looks 'lexicon-ish'.

Dan Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1223363#Comment_1223363

Thanks, Doug. I use Search All Grammars to find discussions of the syntax of a passage I'm translating or of which I'm doing exegesis. Many times, it's just cited as one of a bunch of passages illustrating some point. But often it will come up in Wallace or BDF or Koestenberg et al, etc., with some discussion as to its nuance. Sometimes it points me to an undetected nuance that throws light on the passage, sometimes it alerts me to a controversy I'd not known of.

The Aubrey{2} work looks just like Harris to me, which I see as a grammar.

I wish there were a way to add our own types, or edit the existing ones. I've another thread about commentaries whose hard copies include a translation, which Logos divides into two types (Commentary and Bible) -- so the translation doesn't show in the Passage Guide.

Dan Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1223367#Comment_1223367

DMB, I've helped myself some on both. You prob already know this, but in case it's useful to  you: go to the Information view/tab/whatever, and you can edit the Short Title. That title is what will show up in the Exegetical Guide.

I changed yours to Beale Interp Lex of NTG; and mine to Aubreys Greek Preps in NT.

At least it makes sense now. Thanks for reminding me about Beale.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1223371#Comment_1223371

You prob already know this,

Indeed.  I was just pulling Doug's chain.  Those abbreviations show up all over the place, with no clue what they are ... as if I'm going to re-abbreviate my whole library.

Smiling.

When I saw your post, I shuddered to think of pulling a preposition thru a lexicon-class.  Grammar-linkage makes more practical sense.  I wonder what the Aubreys think.

Dan Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1223374#Comment_1223374

So here I just got in the middle of chain-pulling.

Back to translating.

Rick Brannan (Logos)

Hi Dan.

The Aubrey's reference is classed as a lexicon because that is how it was conceived and that is the slot it fills. It was designed to provide more relevant information about the function of a preposition when one does a keylink to get there. The Lexham Research Lexicon of the Greek New Testament points readers to the Aubrey's wise words.

I understand your comment, but it is best as a lexicon because it is ordered by lemma.

Dan Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1223397#Comment_1223397

I see, Rick. Thanks.