Logos Search Query Help Please!!

Hi,

I am struggling and wasting lot of time to find related bible verses that I need. I greatly appreciate if you can provide me exact search query. I am using logos 10, if you can provide search in any version, I can modify it. Thank you so much.

Search Condition:

1. Truth is the keyword and finding verbs associated with that. Ex: "Speak the Truth", "Tell the Truth", "Teach the Truth", "Search the Truth"..........

One of the search result should be - Eph 4:25 - Speak the Truth

2. Crown is the keyword. Finding "Crown of Life", "Victorious Crown", "Crown of Glory"...........so on.

Ps 65:11 - Crowned with something....

BIG THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

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MJ. Smith

Choose the senses of interest to you from the following lists
put the desired senses in this format sense:"crown (head)" ... and separate them with OR
run the query

MJ. Smith

Choose the senses of interest to you from the following lists
put the desired senses in this format sense:"crown (head)" ... and separate them with OR
run the query

VJ Sanagasetti

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1231762#Comment_1231762

Hi Smith,

Sorry, bit confused. Let me give some more details:

James 1:12 - This verse has "crown of life"

1 Peter 5:4 - This verse has "crown of glory"

how to get these bible verses with a search?

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

VJ Sanagasetti

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1231776#Comment_1231776

I want to find all the verses with crown + something.

This something could be glory, life, victory.

I can search just crown but it gives too many bible verses but I want to shorten my results with few verses. Thank You.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1231776#Comment_1231776

Sorry, bit confused. Let me give some more details:

James 1:12 - This verse has "crown of life"

1 Peter 5:4 - This verse has "crown of glory"

how to get these bible verses with a search?

Right click the bible word "crown" and look on the left side of the Context menu that appears. You will see α prize <=> crown. Select that and then select a Search on the other side; which should look like sense:="prize ⇔ crown". Combine this with the other sense as follows:

sense:="to honor ⇔ crown" OR sense:="prize ⇔ crown"

There are other senses of crown, so you could repeat the above.

The references to a crown as an object or "thing" are sense:=diadem and sense:="crown (headdress)". So your requirement could be met by excluding these senses i.e.

crown NOT INTERSECTS (sense:=diadem OR sense:="crown (headdress)") with Match all forms.

so this gets "crown"/"crowned"/crowns where their sense is NOT as a diadem or headdress.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1231778#Comment_1231778

I want to find all the verses with crown + something.

This something could be glory, life, victory.

You could use something like this - crown BEFORE 3 WORDS (of OR with)

It does rely on you knowing the possible "connecting words" that might be relevant.

I initially just had BEFORE 1 WORDS but that didn't find Ps 65:11 which I note you mentioned in your original post

And it doesn't find the other form you were interested in - Victorious Crown. I only see that in one translation (Passion Translation) in James 1:12 and that is picked up by the more general search above.

Does this help at all?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1231778#Comment_1231778

Are you wanting to find verses with the English word "crown" or Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic words that mean "crown"? I assumed the latter. If the former, then I would search for "crown of" ... beyond that you'd need to know all the values that could match in order to shorten your list. If the latter, my initial answer is the best I can offer. You might try this approach:

Gregory Lawhorn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1231778#Comment_1231778

I want to find all the verses with crown + something.

This something could be glory, life, victory.

I can search just crown but it gives too many bible verses but I want to shorten my results with few verses. Thank You.

I think the problem is that you aren't just looking for crown+something, but crown+meaningful something, and Logos has no idea of knowing what you consider meaningful.

For example, searching for "crown of" returns a number of verses, including "crown of gold" in Esther 8:15 and "crown of righteousness" in Second Timothy 4:8. The difference in significance between the two is not found in the words themselves, but in the way we interpret them according to the context. Logos uses tags to identify various interpretive senses of a word. That's why MJ suggested taking a look at the Bible Sense Lexicon; it will give you an idea of how to ask Logos. Until Logos can read your mind (hopefully Logos 11), that's about the best we can do.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1231800#Comment_1231800

The difference in significance between the two is not found in the words themselves, but in the way we interpret them according to the context.

Most definitely. Years back, I got caught on James' crown ... looked like his readership (listenership!) were expecting literal crowns. And maybe so. The interesting part, is culturally 'crowned' and 'annointed' are very close. I suspect most people prefer a crown.

VJ Sanagasetti

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1231784#Comment_1231784

Hello All,

Thank you so much for taking time to help me with this. May God bless you.

Graham Criddle gave me the answer that I am looking for. Other answers are good too (like bible sense lexicon).

Thank You all.