I use Notes, Notebooks and Verse Lists. What suggestions would uz have to build my own "Chain"?
Hello Rick. Welcome to the group. When I have used Bible chains it has mostly been so that I could lead someone in a Bible study on the topic in question or to find scripture references on a topic from my previous studies. I have used the Thompson Chain Reference Bible for many years prior to using Logos. I still use it sometimes.
If I was going to build a chain in Logos I would definitely use the Notes feature.
I would create one notebook for all of my chains. I would want all on the notes in all of my chains in one notebook so that I could anchor them to the respective scripture reference and turn the notes off in the visual filter when I don't want to see them. After I have built a number of chains I will have quite a list of Bible references that I will have anchored and some verses will be in multiple chains. For this reason I want to either see or hide them at various stages in my studies. Having them all in one notebook will make this easy to accomplish. Before I began building my chains I would consider what chains I would want to build and then create a naming convention for them. Thompson Chain Reference Bible could possibly help you with this.
Then I would start with one specific chain and list all of the Bible references that I want to use in the chain and in the order that I want them to appear in the chain. I would create a note for each Bible reference and I would copy and paste the entire chain into the note and highlight the Bible Reference that it is referencing. I would do this so that I could see where in the chain I am and I can quickly jump to the beginning of the chain or to any reference within the chain.
I would anchor the note to the highlighted reference and assign a note icon and color to the note though I would not assign a highlight color. I probably would not want my Bible verses highlighted. I use Bible verse highlighting for other purposes though you might want to follow a different system. As I am reading in by Bible when I see an icon that I have assigned to my chains I will immediately be able to recognize that this verse is a part of a chain and can easily pull up the note by clicking on the icon.
Finally I would tag all of the notes in the chain with the title I had chosen for that specific chain or some other keyword.
My chain for God's Love might look like this
1. John 3:16
2. 1 John 4:7-8
3. 1 John 4:9-11
4. 1 John 4:16
5. Romans 8:37-39
6. Isaiah 54:10
7. Romans 5:8
8. Galatians 2:20
9. Psalm 136:26
10. Ephesians 2:4-5
I have highlighted Isaiah 54:10 to indicate that this is where I am in my Bible in relation to my chain. From here I can move to any other location within my chain and I can do this from any verse in my chain. I might also place a short note about each scripture reference in my chain but this might not be necessary as I can mouse over the reference and see the scripture verse.
Your question has prompted me to think about how I can use chains in my own personal studies and sermon preparation. This could be a very powerful addition to my Bible notes. Thanks!
I use Notes, Notebooks and Verse Lists. What suggestions would uz have to build my own "Chain"? Hello Rick. Welcome to the group. When I have used Bible chains it has mostly been so that I could lead someone in a Bible study on the topic in question or to find scripture references on a topic from my previous studies. I have used the Thompson Chain Reference Bible for many years prior to using Logos. I still use it sometimes. If I was going to build a chain in Logos I would definitely use the Notes feature. I would create one notebook for all of my chains. I would want all on the notes in all of my chains in one notebook so that I could anchor them to the respective scripture reference and turn the notes off in the visual filter when I don't want to see them. After I have built a number of chains I will have quite a list of Bible references that I will have anchored and some verses will be in multiple chains. For this reason I want to either see or hide them at various stages in my studies. Having them all in one notebook will make this easy to accomplish. Before I began building my chains I would consider what chains I would want to build and then create a naming convention for them. Thompson Chain Reference Bible could possibly help you with this. Then I would start with one specific chain and list all of the Bible references that I want to use in the chain and in the order that I want them to appear in the chain. I would create a note for each Bible reference and I would copy and paste the entire chain into the note and highlight the Bible Reference that it is referencing. I would do this so that I could see where in the chain I am and I can quickly jump to the beginning of the chain or to any reference within the chain. I would anchor the note to the highlighted reference and assign a note icon and color to the note though I would not assign a highlight color. I probably would not want my Bible verses highlighted. I use Bible verse highlighting for other purposes though you might want to follow a different system. As I am reading in by Bible when I see an icon that I have assigned to my chains I will immediately be able to recognize that this verse is a part of a chain and can easily pull up the note by clicking on the icon. Finally I would tag all of the notes in the chain with the title I had chosen for that specific chain or some other keyword. My chain for God's Love might look like this 1. John 3:16 2. 1 John 4:7-8 3. 1 John 4:9-11 4. 1 John 4:16 5. Romans 8:37-39 6. Isaiah 54:10 7. Romans 5:8 8. Galatians 2:20 9. Psalm 136:26 10. Ephesians 2:4-5 I have highlighted Isaiah 54:10 to indicate that this is where I am in my Bible in relation to my chain. From here I can move to any other location within my chain and I can do this from any verse in my chain. I might also place a short note about each scripture reference in my chain but this might not be necessary as I can mouse over the reference and see the scripture verse. Your question has prompted me to think about how I can use chains in my own personal studies and sermon preparation. This could be a very powerful addition to my Bible notes. Thanks!
What a wonderful response to his query. Well appreciated over here. Thank you.
Thanks Michael
Good thinking. For years I have struggled with "NOTE BOOKS" and "NOTES". Numerous times I have suggested that these tools need to be changed. For sure the terminology. I, I think all of us would equate a "NOTEBOOK" to a 3 - ring binder of sorts.
In that 3-ring binder I have dividers with ID and NOTES within the divided pages.
I have watched training videos on Logos on this, and it makes NO, that is NO, sense. When I work in Logos, I don't see a clear differentiation between the 2 items.
Micro Soft has a "ONE NOTE" system that makes simple sense to me. It has "SECTIONS", "Pages" (or dividers) and then notes on numerous pages.
I have been blessed by God to help me be disciplined in my Bible reading. I now am on trip 16, in about 12 years. I am finally beginning to see or recognize topical trends through the pages. If I could build my own "CHAIN", I would learn more and better than trying to fit into someone's shoe at Logos with a shoe horn.
2023 is about here. Time to start my bi-annual trek. I will begin with trying to implement your suggestion. Thank you so much.
Lets push LOGOS to make some appropriate changes. I learn better when I do my own research. Merry Christmas. Thanks again
Good to see an Albertan on here. Im near Grande Prairie but grew up east of you at Bassano.
For sure the terminology. I, I think all of us would equate a "NOTEBOOK" to a 3 - ring binder of sorts. In that 3-ring binder I have dividers with ID and NOTES within the divided pages.
For sure the terminology. I, I think all of us would equate a "NOTEBOOK" to a 3 - ring binder of sorts.
You are almost there - the problem is you are adding a level to the FL implementation -- FL did not build in the dividers. Notebook does, in fact, refer to the three-ring binder. If your office looks like mine you will have a row of binders/notebooks dealing with different topics or projects. Notes are what you put into the binder - notes have content - think notebook pages, sticky notes, card files . . . Instead of using dividers and duplicating notes that fit more than one place, one uses tags to fill the same function as dividers but without the duplication. When people struggle with the analogy, I often switch to the Notes tool being like a file cabinet, the file folders being like notebooks, and notes being anything you stuff into the file folder.
Whats "FL" MJ?
FL = Faithlife, the company that makes Logos Bible Software
What's this? " one uses tags to fill the same function". I don't see "tags"?
DA on FL [:(]
Ah, that would make it harder to understand how notes are intended to be used.
In recent training videos Morris Proctor demonstrated how to use the "Favorites" feature to create your own "Topical Index".
The only downside to this method is that currently, the index is tied (anchored) to a specific Bible version. That said, if you used this method with, say, your favorite Bible, you could then link a second/different version to view different translations.
This is more or less how Thompsons Chains function anyway. They function as a topic list to jump from verse to verse addressing the same topic, person, place, etc.
With Logos10 now having added a Favorites feature to the Bible sidebar it can now be easily accessed.
See the pics in setting up and using...
EDIT: I understand that this is not really a chain but if you keep the verses for each topic in order you can have it function somewhat like one. Not perfect but doable.
Da again. I've used (I'm embarrassed to tell you) Logos from the beginning, but have never used "tags". Never even saw it hiding in small print at the bottom. I'll experiment. Thank you for your patience with an old guy.
Is there a Video on TAGS?
MJ Beg you. Could you send another example with less Greek in it. [:O] At 75 and recuperating from a serious concussion I learn slow. Sorry.
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