BUG? Layout does not remember column setting for the NLT

Rod Bergen
Rod Bergen Member Posts: 33
edited November 21 in English Forum

I set columns for the NLT Bible to Zero in my daily layout but when I restart Logos, it resets columns to 1.

When columns are set to Zero, the text scrolls one line at a time but when columns are set to 1, the scrolling is one screen at a time which interrupts the flow of the text when reading.

This only happens with the NLT Bible.

How do I get the column setting to stay at Zero without having to reset it each time I want to read the NLT?  Or is this a bug?

Thanks!

...the only thing that matters is faith working through love.  (Ga 5:6 - NET)

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

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    How do I get the column setting to stay at Zero without having to reset it each time I want to read the NLT?  Or is this a bug?

    Are you perchance getting to your NLT via a layout (or perhaps a shortcut) where the NLT has been preset to 1?

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  • Rod Bergen
    Rod Bergen Member Posts: 33

    Are you perchance getting to your NLT via a layout (or perhaps a shortcut) where the NLT has been preset to 1?

    No... I set the NLT columns to Zero and then update the layout.

    It randomly switches back to a column setting of 1.

    ...the only thing that matters is faith working through love.  (Ga 5:6 - NET)

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    No... I set the NLT columns to Zero and then update the layout.

    It randomly switches back to a column setting of 1.

    I cannot reproduce in Windows 11.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Rod Bergen
    Rod Bergen Member Posts: 33

    I cannot reproduce in Windows 11.

    It happened to me again this morning when I started up Logos 10.

    When you say you can't repeat it, perhaps you aren't exactly duplicating my actions?

    It is somewhat random, in that it does not happen every time.

    Is it possible that it happens when I open one or more other layouts after I save the layout in question? 

    Yesterday, I had several other layouts open after I saved my standard layout.  I then shut Logos down for the day and it opened the next day to my standard layout.  Voila... the NLT was back to 1 column.


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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some attributes of a resource are tied to the resource not to the layout. The number of column (none or one) will be what was last used for the resource NOT what it was "way back" when the layout was saved. We need Andrew B. to step in and tell us which attributes these are.

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  • Rod Bergen
    Rod Bergen Member Posts: 33

    Some attributes of a resource are tied to the resource not to the layout. The number of column (none or one) will be what was last used for the resource NOT what it was "way back" when the layout was saved.

    I ALWAYS set it back to Zero columns but it seems to have a mind of its own. 

    ...the only thing that matters is faith working through love.  (Ga 5:6 - NET)

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    It is somewhat random, in that it does not happen every time.

    Is it possible that it happens when I open one or more other layouts after I save the layout in question? 

    Yesterday, I had several other layouts open after I saved my standard layout.  I then shut Logos down for the day and it opened the next day to my standard layout.  Voila... the NLT was back to 1 column.

    I saved layout #1 with NLT set to None. I opened layout #2, opened NLT (which was set to None) then set it to 1 column. Then I opened layout #1 and NLT was set to 1 col. But NLT would stay at None in layout #1 unless I changed it elsewhere to 1 column.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dave, the behavior I saw matched your observations. I'd like Andrew B. to confirm with which settings behave this way.

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Logos Employee Posts: 5,362

    I'd like Andrew B. to confirm with which settings behave this way.

    It's pretty easy to confirm the behavior.

    1. Open a resource
    2. set the columns to 2.
    3. Save this as a layout.
    4. Close the layout
    5. Open the same resource
    6. set the columns back to None
    7. Close the resource
    8. Open the layout
    9. Observe that columns are set to 2

    That means that columns are saved as part of the layout.

    I don't know what is causing the behavior Rod is observing. I can't recreate it.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know what is causing the behavior Rod is observing. I can't recreate it.

    Odd as both Dave and I are able to replicate it - although I used "none" and "1". Could it be that the problem occurs only when the layout is "none"?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Logos Employee Posts: 5,362

    Could it be that the problem occurs only when the layout is "none"?

    Good call!

    I'll write up a case for that. I suspect the problem is that "None" is treated as "not specified", so it doesn't overwrite the setting when you load the layout.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Eric Snider
    Eric Snider Member Posts: 8

    What is the status of this issue? I have more problems with the NIV reverting to 2 or 3 columns (Logos Bible Study 34.1.9). I just went through every saved layout updating every Bible translation to "Columns: None" then reopened a layout I had already updated to find it had 3 columns for the NIV.

  • Rod Bergen
    Rod Bergen Member Posts: 33

    This has been a continuing problem for me.  But no one has ever dealt with it. 

    ...the only thing that matters is faith working through love.  (Ga 5:6 - NET)