Seeking help with a Greek search turns into several feature enhancement requests

Rosie Perera

I'm trying to search for all mentions of the verb ὑπομένω in the NT, including different conjugations of it.

I don't know Greek (other than to be able to read the letters), but I figured a Lemma search would be what I want.

So I went to the Search tab and didn't remember the syntax for doing a lemma search, so I clicked on the Template "Greek Root Word" and pasted in "ὑπομένω".

The Search button is greyed out.

OK, so I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong here, why is Search greyed out. I did know of one occurrence of this verb, which game from doing a Bible search of ὑπομένω. It found 2 Tim 2:10. So I right clicked on the word there in an Interlinear view, and found that the root is actually μένω. But I don't want to search for the root word, as that would find all other verbs with different prefixes too.

Here are my first couple of feature enhancement suggestions:

1) Since this Greek Root Word search box tells people what a Lemma is, would it be too much to ask to have a Template for a Lemma search? I would think Lemma search would be more common and more useful than a Root Word search.

2) Since Templates are supposed to be for people like me who don't know Greek, how about some help in finding the root word from a word you paste into there, so that the search can proceed?

So anyway, I selected the lemma in the left side, and tried doing a Lemma search. That generated the search text "lemma.g:ὑπομένω" for me and did a Morph search showing English translations of that in the current Bible. That's kind of helpful, but I wanted to see the listing in Greek. So I wanted to change what book the results were in to a Greek Bible, but the dropdown in the Morph Search tab doesn't even have "All Bibles" listed.

What gives there? I thought Morph searches were mostly for searching in bibles anyway.

So here's my third feature enhancement suggestion:

3. List "All Bibles" in the resource dropdown for the Morph search tab.

Andrew Batishko

I thought Morph searches were mostly for searching in bibles anyway.

Morph search is for searching morphologically tagged books. Not all of these are Bibles. If you click on "All Passages" and then hover over the "more" part of the text at the top, you'll get a sense of the type of texts in your library that have been tagged.

I've passed your suggestions along to the Search development team.