First Mention of a word
Is there an easy way to find a first mention of a word?
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Welcome Brandon
If you want "first mention" I assume
- it is in a bible
- it is an original language word.
So run a Search on lemma.g:θυσία. The first result/mention is Mt 9:13
Let us know what you had in mind.
Dave
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If you also search for lemma.g:θυσία in the LXX, the first mention is in Genesis 4:3.
If you define a LXX and a Greek New Testament as a series, both can be searched in one step.
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I’m sorry guys, I’m meaning “any” word. The root of anything. Wasn’t sure it was a quick view of were something originally appeared in text.
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BRANDON RAYBON said:
quick view of where something originally appeared in text.
The first use in canonical sequence is essentially meaningless. I assume you mean first use historically which is a bit more difficult.
BRANDON RAYBON said:The root of anything.
- select word and right click to open context menu
- select the root tab on the left
- select search Bible on the right which opens search panel with a search for the root; results are in canonical sequence
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thanks so much, I’m new to deep study. Can you explain the meaninglessness of canonical sequence? I’m asking to learn, not debating. 😇 I hear lots of preachers stating the “first mention”.
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BRANDON RAYBON said:
I’m meaning “any” word.
Concordance tool shows all words. First occurrence of Greek lemma Ἰησοῦς is in Matthew 1:1 while first occurrence of יִשְׂרָאֵל is in Genesis 32:29
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Did you know that the standard Jewish sequence is not the same as the "standard" Christian sequence? That is simply one example of how your choice of Bibles can change the sequence.
The use of words changes over time. A word in Job may be an older use of a word than its use in Ezra.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Brandon, you might want to check out Learn Logos's training on word studies. It is for Logos 8, but the principles have not really changed. Don Carson's book Exegetical Fallacies is also another great useful tool. Unfortunately, a lot of well meaning pastors do some pretty sloppy things with word studies and $8 of training in Logos and how to do Word Studies correctly is invaluable. This one from Logos 7 is more comprehensive but might be a little bit harder to follow. I would start with the first one and if you want to learn more, do the Logos 7 one.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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BRANDON RAYBON said:
I hear lots of preachers stating the “first mention”.
It might be instructive to search for “first mention” (with quotes) in your Library e.g. "“He will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from birth” Luke 1:13–17... . The account contains the first mention of the Holy Spirit..." Richards, L. (1990). The 365 Day Devotional Commentary (p. 714).
- Perform a Search of "Holy Spirit"
- the "first mention" in Luke does occur at Lk 1:15, but
- the "first mention" in the NT occurs in Mt 1:18 and
- the "first mention" in the Bible occurs at Ps 51:11
- Perform a Search of person:"Holy Spirit"
- the "first mention" in the Bible occurs at Gen 1:2
The text quoted does not clarify the context of "first mention". Even if one assumes it is related to the birth account, Mt 1:18 has a strong claim to being "first". person:"Holy Spirit" shows the application of "Holy Spirit" to "Spirit of God" in Genesis.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
the "first mention" in the Bible occurs at Gen 1:2
Which is my usual example of why I don't trust Faithlife coding - providing anachronistic tagging after pressure from a particular portion of their market.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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BRANDON RAYBON said:
Is there an easy way to find a first mention of a word?
Brandon might be referring to “the law of first mention.” It is a popular hermeneutical method in some circles. R. T. Kendall describes the principle in this way: “the way a word is first used in the Bible will be the way this word is largely understood thereafter” (Understanding Theology, Volume Two, 179).
EDIT: Mark Ward has a video on the subject: https://youtu.be/I9sb6UPPEz8
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BRANDON RAYBON said:
Can you explain the meaninglessness of canonical sequence?
MJ gave you an OT example. Here is an NT example:
In the New Testament, all of Paul's letters are placed later than the four Gospels. Every Scripture scholar of every kind I've ever encountered would agree that at least one of the four Gospels was written later than at least one of Paul's letters. Furthermore, Paul's letters are unambiguously not listed in the New Testament according to the order that they were written in. The history of the canonization of the components of the New Testament matters here.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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