Visual filters adding pronouns to search

Kenneth L Tyler

I have designed several visual filters and turned them on and off depending on my particular need at the time. I used the following search to locate the phrases I wanted but wondered how to catch the related pronouns and references outlined in the graphic below in red boxes.

I use this search: "lemma.g:ἀκάθαρτος BEFORE lemma.g:πνεῦμα" to get the main reference.

Graham Criddle

I used the following search to locate the phrases I wanted but wondered how to catch the related pronouns and references outlined in the graphic below in red boxes.

I can't think of a way of doing this.

If I understand correctly, you are trying to find related pronouns that may or may not be present.

That type of search can only be done using a syntax search (and I'm not sure how we could do that to pick up the reference in verse 12) and syntax searches can't be used to drive visual filters.

I'll be interested to see if anyone else can see how to do this.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1257843#Comment_1257843

One needs to use the Bible knowledge format of person: to get the pronouns but the pronouns, per se, either have a pronoun lemma or are implied. I suspect one could come close with a lemma search and a person search and the merge function ... but I thought I'd give Dave a shot before trying my approach.

Dave Hooton

I wanted but wondered how to catch the related pronouns and references outlined in the graphic below in red boxes.

Use Bible Search in Verses.

(lemma.g:ἀκάθαρτος BEFORE lemma.g:πνεῦμα)  AND person:"An Evil Supernatural Being" is limited to verbs and pronouns that have been tagged as referents in the same verse

You would also want to use the original filter (lemma.g:ἀκάθαρτος BEFORE lemma.g:πνεῦμα) with a different style to ensure that all cases are highlighted.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1257850#Comment_1257850

I thought I'd give Dave a shot before trying my approach.

Not all referents are tagged i.e. verbs and pronouns, and searching for person:"An Evil Supernatural Being" yields far more results than the original lemma search. The proximity search (with AND) leaves 6 verses out of 22 to be inspected for referents.

EDIT: I realised I can improve that as (lemma.g:ἀκάθαρτος BEFORE lemma.g:πνεῦμα) AND (person:"An Evil Supernatural Being" OR person:Legion OR person:"A Demoniac" OR person:"Mute Spirit") captures all 22 verses. Hence only that filter is required.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1257866#Comment_1257866

Hi Dave

Not all referents are tagged i.e. verbs and pronouns

Persumably this is the reason that the indicated terms (red boxes) in the initial post are not returned?

Graham

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1257912#Comment_1257912

Hi Dave

Not all referents are tagged i.e. verbs and pronouns

Persumably this is the reason that the indicated terms (red boxes) in the initial post are not returned?

Graham

The pronoun in v.12 is tagged whilst the pronoun in v.11 is inserted for clarity in the translation, and the adjacent verb is not tagged (unlike. "passes" in Mt 12:43).