Help! Page number for text in footnotes?
Hi, help would be appreciated. In some physical books, the footnotes are found at the end of each chapter. Logos, however, places the footnotes in the main text such that you can read it if you hover/click on the footnote itself. In other words, Logos skips the footnote section altogether and jumps to the next chapter. Here's an example from Meier's Marginal Jew volume:
Notice how it jumps at the end of the chapter from page 69 to 89. However, I need to find the page number of a specific footnote found within this page range. How do I do that? Now, I can copy text from the non-footnote area (e.g. the highlighted section), and paste it in to Word. The footnote in Word will give me the page number:
However, if I click a footnote in Logos, copy some text from the pop-up window, and paste *that* into Word, then Logos will not supply the page number:
Any ideas? Is there any way to see the book in Logos in the same way I see the hardcopy (footnotes at the end of the chapter along with page numbers)?
Thanks in advance,
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Joel Archer said:
However, if I click a footnote in Logos, copy some text from the pop-up window, and paste *that* into Word, then Logos will not supply the page number:
I've just tried this and I do get a page number in the footnote.
Which citation style are you using - you can see this in Program Settings? Some provide page numbers while others do not.
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Graham, perhaps you can let us know which style you used.
For God and For Neighbor
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Thanks Graham. Unfortunately, it appears I don't get the page numbers, regardless of the style I use. (I tried a variety, but I usually use SBL). Could it perhaps depend on the book?
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JBR said:
Graham, perhaps you can let us know which style you used.
I was using Turabian 8th edition (the ninth doesn't currently provide page numbers)
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Joel Archer said:
Could it perhaps depend on the book?
It does depend on the book having page numbers - but as your screenshot shows this particular book does.
Joel Archer said:(I tried a variety, but I usually use SBL)
I've just tried it with both SBL styles and I got a page number in the footnote each time.
So I'm afraid I can't explain why we are getting different results.
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Graham, very interesting. I tried Turbain, but it's a no-go. I'm using the Mac version of Logos. Could that be it?
Also, are you by any chance trying this on the same John Meier volume, or a different one?
Thanks
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Joel Archer said:
Graham, very interesting. I tried Turbain, but it's a no-go. I'm using the Mac version of Logos. Could that be it?
I've just tried it on my Mac and got the same results as in Windows - i.e. including page numbers
Joel Archer said:Also, are you by any chance trying this on the same John Meier volume, or a different one?
I believe it's the same one - and I've just checked and Logos only has the one version of this
To check can you let me know specifically which portion of text you are copy / pasting when you don't get the page number in the footnote?
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Sure thing. Just as a test, I am copying/pasting all the text from footnote 62 displayed in the image earlier in the feed--starting with "Hence" and ending with "time."
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Joel Archer said:
Sure thing. Just as a test, I am copying/pasting all the text from footnote 62 displayed in the image earlier in the feed--starting with "Hence" and ending with "time."
I can reproduce this problem, with various citations styles. If I select and copy text from the book itself, I get the page number included in the footnote when I paste the text into Word, but if I select and copy/past text from a footnote popup window, I don't.
I suspect Logos doesn't store the info about what page numbers these footnotes appeared on in the original print edition, so it will likely not be something that is possible for Logos to do "correctly". But may I be proved wrong!
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Joel Archer said:
Sure thing. Just as a test, I am copying/pasting all the text from footnote 62 displayed in the image earlier in the feed--starting with "Hence" and ending with "time."
Many apologies - I had missed the fact you were copying from the footnote popup (as opposed to the "footnote text' at the bottom of the page. Even though you had stated it clearly!
When I tried that, I get the same results as you do.
Sorry for wasting your time with the various tests etc I suggested.
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Graham Criddle said:
Many apologies - I had missed the fact you were copying from the footnote popup (as opposed to the "footnote text' at the bottom of the page. Even though you had stated it clearly!
I'm not able to select to footnote text at the bottom of the page (in Paged View, which is what I assume you mean). Are you able to do that? I find that the footnotes are not selectable in that view. I did try that too, hoping that maybe it would produce a page number, but it's not possible to copy from there.
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Rosie Perera said:
I'm not able to select to footnote text at the bottom of the page (in Paged View, which is what I assume you mean). Are you able to do that? I find that the footnotes are not selectable in that view.
No - I can't copy from there either.
I ended up being quite unsure of what was footnote text and what wasn't (at least in scrolling view)!
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No problem. Thanks for trying! Glad that it's not just something I'm doing incorrectly.
Kind of disappointing though, especially for those of us who are researchers and who are investing money in electronics resources instead of hard copies... Maybe Logos will resolve this in the future.
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