Atlas
I'm reletively new to Logos, and I love the software.
There is one part of it I would "beef up", and that is the atlas.
I'm a former Accordance user. I hate to say this but their interactive maps are much better than Logos atlas.
I don't like the colours, I don't like the fact you can't see all the cities (and mountains and body of water, and ancient traveling routes), you can't put 2 "filters" together like: the twelve tribes and roman empie simultanously, see how specific wars went, like the ones in Joshua for example.
If I didn't like logos I wouldn't bother you with this.
Thank you for reading
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Welcome, Philippe!
I use both Logos and Accordance. The reason (as you graciously note) is Logos media is (historically) lacking.
- Can't zoom the images and maps like you can on Accordance (except maybe some recent ones, looks like)
- Can't tailor the Atlas product; older Logos mapping products are buggy; not maintained
- And you generally are sent to the web for imagery Logos doesn't want to bother with (eg mss images).
I don't recall them ever replying to the mapping/imaging complaints or suggestions. Probably for good reason.
Anyway, don't lose your Accordance ... 'both' is not a bad idea.
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People have been complaining about the Logos maps since the L6 days (that is when I joined at least). I wish they would fix them and make them better but it is has fallen on deaf ears. They tried with the new atlas but it didn't work and it is online only.
I hope Faithlife will someday improve and craft their own atlas but at this point I wouldn't count on it. I really think an improved atlas with the options you speak of (that the other company has) would vastly improve their reach to others and not just scholars.
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As a long time user (1.6 days), I have found the Logos Bible Atlas 2.0 program to be the best. Sadly, they did not continue it. I liked the ability to add cities to your view, follow the links to the Bible Dictionary, and then to view and rotate the maps in 3-D imaging like a topo map.
I like maps and tried to use the current atlas but it does not compare.
Dan
Philippe Vachon said:I'm reletively new to Logos, and I love the software.
There is one part of it I would "beef up", and that is the atlas.
I'm a former Accordance user. I hate to say this but their interactive maps are much better than Logos atlas.
I don't like the colours, I don't like the fact you can't see all the cities (and mountains and body of water, and ancient traveling routes), you can't put 2 "filters" together like: the twelve tribes and roman empie simultanously, see how specific wars went, like the ones in Joshua for example.
If I didn't like logos I wouldn't bother you with this.
Thank you for reading
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Dan Cleghorn said:
I have found the Logos Bible Atlas 2.0 program to be the best. Sadly, they did not continue it. I liked the ability to add cities to your view, follow the links to the Bible Dictionary, and then to view and rotate the maps in 3-D imaging like a topo map.
I still have the old Bible Atlas 2.0. Between it and the Accordance Atlas, finding places is useful, relative to different periods and roads. I also like the 3D (both software), when trying to understand issues. Below display the Megiddo Egyptian army approach choices, which ironically were repeated by the British, millennia later.
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The core problem I have with Logos' atlas is the same one that I have with the timeline tool - I've never been able to use them to create simple slides or handouts to use when I'm teaching. They're powerful and you can find all sorts of interesting stuff - but they don't do the one thing I most need them for.
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Is 2.0 available to purchase anymore?
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Mattillo said:
Is 2.0 available to purchase anymore?
Isaiah 2 can only be purchased with the full book of Isaiah. It was a publisher requirement from pre-exilic days. Smiling; that Bible book recognizer is quick!
But regarding Bible Atlas 2.0, I don't think so; also needs the older Windows, to run it.
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[:D]
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Some nice DSS fragments of Is 2.0 are available. For example:
1Q Isaiah a: Col. II,
Isaiah 1:26–2:21 4Q59 Isaiah e: Frg. 1,
Isaiah 2:1–4 4Q60 Isaiah f: Frgs. 3–6,
Isaiah 1:18–2:3
Isaiah 2:2 1Q Isaiah a: Col. II,
Isaiah 1:26–2:21 4Q59
Isaiah e: Frg. 1, Isaiah 2:…
Now that we have that out of the way, I too long for better maps, or maybe just better ways to view them in in Logos.
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I have been asking for better maps from the early days of Logos. Logos 4 was a MAJOR improvement, but still lacking in so many areas....and since then, there has been no advancement in maps. The Atlas was a bust, as far as I was concerned. Carta was a nice addition, but I still wish for something similar to the old Parson Atlas, where you could create maps by adding the cities YOU wanted on a particular map, and not all the other cities that just crowded the information that you needed for the passage that you were studying/teaching.....I have just about given up hope that that will ever occur....but just maybe....one day....
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Dan Cleghorn said:
As a long time user (1.6 days), I have found the Logos Bible Atlas 2.0 program to be the best. Sadly, they did not continue it. I liked the ability to add cities to your view, follow the links to the Bible Dictionary, and then to view and rotate the maps in 3-D imaging like a topo map.
I like maps and tried to use the current atlas but it does not compare.
Dan
Ditto. I am in violent agreement. Since Logos Bible Atlas 2.0, I have hoped that a reimagined Bible Altas programme would emerge, but what we have is painful to use. The best way to describe the current Logos Atlas is a slightly interactive media viewer. Accordance has at least maintained their platform and even though there have not been any significant advances, it is still much better.
Maybe in Logos 11 we will finally see something that leverages what is now possible with advances in tech? I am not going to hold my breath. Every version since Logos 3 I have eagerly looked at each release announcement to see if it made it into the next offering, only to find new features such as the faithlife groups, the counselling guide and canvass. Maybe these get used a lot and are priority? Or maybe Logos is just not interested when it comes to the power of mapping alongside the Biblical story? To be fair I do love the data sets and have just settled in my mind that we might never really see this picked up again by Logos. Logos is the leader in making links in data and my library, and for this I am deeply grateful.
On this note, I think very complementary to this would be a Biblical archaeology module or guide. Back in the early days we had BAR and to this day I think it has been a huge loss for Logos. I suspect this is down to BAR’s doing more than Logos. A wish for Logos 11 would be a module that has solid then and now maps using the latest in GIS technology, tightly integrated archaeology and event timeline elements, even Old Testament and early church writings! Yes, ambitious and likely beyond the scope of what is reasonable to expect.
In the meantime, I use primarily Accordance for maps and you can vote for this at https://feedback.faithlife.com/ where there are multiple duplicate entries. Here is a sampling. Vote away! A miracle might occur! 😜
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-data-sets/posts/travel-times-between-biblical-places
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-data-sets/posts/archaeology-data-set
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-book-requests/posts/biblical-archaeology-review
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-data-sets/posts/accept-known-alternate-spellings-for-place-names-in-atlas
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/add-atlas-resources-to-atlas-guide-section
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/enlarge-maps-feature
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/custom-maps
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/quick-maps-feature
https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-mobile-app/posts/resource-view-maps-and-media
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