Using Two Monitors with Logos?

David R. Bess
David R. Bess Member Posts: 87 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

How many of you use two monitors with Logos, one for the program and one for your word processor?  I've used one monitor with Logos for years, but a couple of friends have suggested I use two.  Is it that much benefit to you?  If so, why?

Thanks,

David B.

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,147

    I have been using two monitors on computers for over 10 years - I just find it provides an overall better experience allowing me to spread things out more evenly.

    And it is a great benefit when using Logos - I use it in one of two ways:

    1. Have the main workspace open on one window and a (number of) floating windows open on the other. I would often have a sermon document open in a floating window enabling me to write my sermon while looking at all the other Logos resources / tools etc
    2. Have Logos open in one window and email / word processor / browser etc open in another

    I would absolutely recommend it

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    I too have been told this and have not jumped on the bandwagon yet. Graham-what other monitor do you have? 

  • Alan Monroe
    Alan Monroe Member Posts: 149 ✭✭

    I highly recommend dual monitors, at least (at my accounting office I have 4), as well. As long as they are basically the same monitor, there is no real requirement as to they type of monitor. The ones I use are identical, but they really don't have to be. As long as your computer will handle 2 monitors, very few today won't, you should be able to plug and play and be up an running in just a couple of minutes. That time will be used to set your monitors up the way you want them in your system. I have mine set to where my mouse flows seamlessly from one monitor to another, even in my 4 monitor setup at my office. Here at home my 2 work wonderfully.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,147

    Graham-what other monitor do you have? 

    All of my monitors (I use two at home and two in the office) are around 22-23 inch

  • Morgan
    Morgan Member Posts: 503 ✭✭✭

    If you were to compare it to having physical copies of your books, it's like having a bigger desk. You can have more open without having to shuffle everything around in piles.

    A 22' monitor will fit two panels side by side comfortably. I opted for a couple of 29' monitors which fit three panels nicely (bible, commentary, notes).

  • JBR
    JBR Member Posts: 211 ✭✭

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  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,065

    As long as they are basically the same monitor, there is no real requirement as to they type of monitor.

    I totally agree. I have a 32" 3840x2160 monitor and some years ago I added an old unused extra monitor of 1920x1080 resolution. That works but it is not particularly convenient.

    Then i added a Wacom graphic drawing monitor of the 1920x1080 resolution for technical drawings but also utilize it for the Bible study, often copying pictures or drawings to analyze them. It is doable, but with identical resolution it would be easier.

    Monitors usually have also color differences. And your room, light sources, and desk space & shape may affect the layout.

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    I highly recommend multiple monitors.   I currently have 2 27inch monitors and will most likely add a 3rd.

    I just wish we could have multiple instances of Logos open so that we could have full working layouts on all the monitors we have.

    What an idea!!!! [8-|]

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭

    How many of you use two monitors with Logos, one for the program and one for your word processor?

    Definitely. So much better with 2 monitors: laptop screen showing the Bible text in Logos; external monitor where I'm writing in Word.

    For 15 years now, I've turned the external monitor to potrait, displaying about a page and a half in Word.

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,459

    a couple of friends have suggested I use two.  Is it that much benefit to you?  If so, why?

    Coupled with 'Spaces' the use of two monitors allows me to have multiple projects on the go with only (two) swipes to bring them together.

    I have used two monitors for many years (10+) and even when I take my laptop away often use 'handoff' to press my iPad into use as a second monitor for referencer documents.

    It's very much like having a baby - you have no idea the difference it will make to your life until you try it. Unlike having a baby once you have done it you would not want to go back.

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,148

    I too use multiple monitors whenever I can as I just appreciate being able to lay things out over a larger space in a logical fashion. On the other hand I end up using my laptop by itself often too. It is a different experience but it still gets the job done.

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  • Jonathan Bradley
    Jonathan Bradley Member Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭

    When I am at home working, which is normally from home, I always use two monitors and could not imagine going back to just one. I highly recommend it, and not just for use with Logos. Right now, I have one monitor positioned normally, and another vertically for viewing longer documents (mainly so I can see their footnotes as I type/research). So, if you have the chance to try it out, I say go for it.

    Let us know how it goes if you do try it.

    Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    I had A PC which is now out of use, but I have a labtop can I use the Monitor with my Labtop? If so, what should I do?

    Blessings in Christ.

  • R. Mansfield
    R. Mansfield Member Posts: 629 ✭✭✭

    I have three monitors on my desk. The middle monitor is for my main focus with the one to the left of it as supplementary. So in regard to Logos, if I were writing something, I might have Logos on the left and a word processor in the center. The monitor on the right is usually assigned to email. I have used this essential setup for over five years.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    I had A PC which is now out of use, but I have a labtop can I use the Monitor with my Labtop? If so, what should I do?

    It might depend on the laptop, but if your laptop is within the last 3-4 years then your laptop should support the use of multiple monitors. I have a laptop, 2 years old now, and connect to two monitors now. 

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Pedro Gabriel Cavalcanti Lima
    Pedro Gabriel Cavalcanti Lima Member Posts: 135 ✭✭

    Using 4 here, and thinkin to grab another one...

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭

    JBR said:

    What do the reviewers on the Amazon site say?

    Be discerning with Amazon reviews. Lots of fakes, etc.

    On topic, I also recommend having two. I have 2 in my office and when I am home, I only have one 15" laptop monitor. It is frustrating after being used to 2. Go for it and you will love it!

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    xnman said:

    Tes said:

    I had A PC which is now out of use, but I have a labtop can I use the Monitor with my Labtop? If so, what should I do?

    It might depend on the laptop, but if your laptop is within the last 3-4 years then your laptop should support the use of multiple monitors. I have a laptop, 2 years old now, and connect to two monitors now. 

    It's ten yrs Old. So it mean it is not compatible?

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Bernhard
    Bernhard Member Posts: 723 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    xnman said:

    Tes said:

    I had A PC which is now out of use, but I have a labtop can I use the Monitor with my Labtop? If so, what should I do?

    It might depend on the laptop, but if your laptop is within the last 3-4 years then your laptop should support the use of multiple monitors. I have a laptop, 2 years old now, and connect to two monitors now. 

    It's ten yrs Old. So it mean it is not compatible?

    You can definitely connect one additional screen. Your laptop might still have a VGA plug, but maybe another connection like HDMI or DVI. If it has two (for example VGA and HDMI) you should normally be able to connect two external screens simultaneously. Otherwise you might need a docking station, ideally one that was made for your particular laptop, to connect more than one external screen.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Bernhard said:

    Tes said:

    xnman said:

    Tes said:

    I had A PC which is now out of use, but I have a labtop can I use the Monitor with my Labtop? If so, what should I do?

    It might depend on the laptop, but if your laptop is within the last 3-4 years then your laptop should support the use of multiple monitors. I have a laptop, 2 years old now, and connect to two monitors now. 

    It's ten yrs Old. So it mean it is not compatible?

    You can definitely connect one additional screen. Your laptop might still have a VGA plug, but maybe another connection like HDMI or DVI. If it has two (for example VGA and HDMI) you should normally be able to connect two external screens simultaneously. Otherwise you might need a docking station, ideally one that was made for your particular laptop, to connect more than one external screen.

    Thank you Bernhard, Very nice idea.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    Bernhard said:

    Tes said:

    xnman said:

    Tes said:

    I had A PC which is now out of use, but I have a labtop can I use the Monitor with my Labtop? If so, what should I do?

    It might depend on the laptop, but if your laptop is within the last 3-4 years then your laptop should support the use of multiple monitors. I have a laptop, 2 years old now, and connect to two monitors now. 

    It's ten yrs Old. So it mean it is not compatible?

    You can definitely connect one additional screen. Your laptop might still have a VGA plug, but maybe another connection like HDMI or DVI. If it has two (for example VGA and HDMI) you should normally be able to connect two external screens simultaneously. Otherwise you might need a docking station, ideally one that was made for your particular laptop, to connect more than one external screen.

    Thank you Bernhard, Very nice idea.

    Docking stations are not that much.... I recommend you get one for your laptop. They are well worth it. 

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    xnman said:

    Tes said:

    I had A PC which is now out of use, but I have a labtop can I use the Monitor with my Labtop? If so, what should I do?

    It might depend on the laptop, but if your laptop is within the last 3-4 years then your laptop should support the use of multiple monitors. I have a laptop, 2 years old now, and connect to two monitors now. 

    It's ten yrs Old. So it mean it is not compatible?

    Not necessarily. I have a late 2013 Macbook Pro that does it's own monitor and an external one perfectly. No issues at all. Depends on your computer.

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    xnman said:

    Tes said:

    I had A PC which is now out of use, but I have a labtop can I use the Monitor with my Labtop? If so, what should I do?

    It might depend on the laptop, but if your laptop is within the last 3-4 years then your laptop should support the use of multiple monitors. I have a laptop, 2 years old now, and connect to two monitors now. 

    It's ten yrs Old. So it mean it is not compatible?

    Not necessarily. I have a late 2013 Macbook Pro that does it's own monitor and an external one perfectly. No issues at all. Depends on your computer.

    Generally, the docking station makes it all possible. 

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Carl Thomas
    Carl Thomas Member Posts: 75 ✭✭

    Thats crazy. lol. 

    I have used two monitors for at least 20 years. Though I have two 27" ones. 

  • Brian Evans
    Brian Evans Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    I'm completely committed to dual monitors.  I don't think I would intentionally build a computer at this point without at least two.  My office setup is a bit unique.  I had an 4800lm Optima projector for movie nights that I set on a shelf behind me that fills about 2/3 of the wall (close to a 10 foot screen).  My laptop visually sits below that image.  Logos on the big screen and Word on the laptop monitor is a really intuitive setup for me.

  • Joseph Turner
    Joseph Turner Member Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭

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    Once you go to multiple monitors, you will never be happy with one monitor again.  It creates a much more productive workflow.  I build my desktops to support 4 outputs, but I am actually about to starting using my laptop exclusively, so I purchased a 4 output docking station to test.

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    IMG 0351

    Once you go to multiple monitors, you will never be happy with one monitor again.  It creates a much more productive workflow.  I build my desktops to support 4 outputs, but I am actually about to starting using my laptop exclusively, so I purchased a 4 output docking station to test.

    That's what I'm talking about!!!  Nice!!

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Dr. Charles A. Wootten
    Dr. Charles A. Wootten Member Posts: 51 ✭✭

    One day I'll put my monitors like yours. But, since I'm too lazy to open the laptop bag to set it up, ...well.....[:P]

    Logos Max on HP Elite Tower 600 G9 x64 Desktop PC 32 GB Windows 11.


  • Phil Owen
    Phil Owen Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    6 Mons-Apple Studio

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭

    I have ADD. I have two monitors, and a third would be nice. 

    But these give me a headache looking at them! [:D]

    Kudos to y'all that can pull these setups off! Wish I could.

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭

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  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭

    Doc B said:

    Eat your hearts out people.

    Ideally, on the very top two right monitors, the Passage Guide and Factbook should be swapped positions for a better workflow. Otherwise, it's ideal.

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • Jonathan Huber
    Jonathan Huber Member Posts: 152 ✭✭

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    Once you go to multiple monitors, you will never be happy with one monitor again.  It creates a much more productive workflow.  I build my desktops to support 4 outputs, but I am actually about to starting using my laptop exclusively, so I purchased a 4 output docking station to test.

    You can do all that just with the floating windows? Very nice. (I'm new to Logos, still figuring out layouts.) 

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭

    You can do all that just with the floating windows? Very nice. (I'm new to Logos, still figuring out layouts.) 

    Yes sir! 

    Right click on any tab and you will see an option to open that tab in a floating window. There is another option to open all tabs in floating windows. Then you can move them around to wherever you want. If you have them in a link-set, it will still follow.

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  • Justin Gatlin
    Justin Gatlin Member, MVP Posts: 2,197

    xnman said:

    I just wish we could have multiple instances of Logos open so that we could have full working layouts on all the monitors we have.

    Since this zombie thread is back anyway, I will point out that you can have Logos and Verbum installed side-by-side as a workaround to running two instances of Logos. But it will install all of your resources twice.

    When you save a layout with multiple monitors, Logos does keep all of that straight for you when you open it again.

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭

    When you save a layout with multiple monitors, Logos does keep all of that straight for you when you open it again.

    I have never gotten this to work. When I close my two-monitor setup and open again, it opens on my main monitor and I have to move the other window over to the second one every time.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    When I close my two-monitor setup and open again, it opens on my main monitor and I have to move the other window over to the second one every time.

    Did you save it (or "update") it with the two monitor setup established? 

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  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭

    When I close my two-monitor setup and open again, it opens on my main monitor and I have to move the other window over to the second one every time.

    Did you save it (or "update") it with the two monitor setup established? 

    Yes sir. I've tried multiple times.

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  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭

    How many of you use two monitors with Logos, one for the program and one for your word processor?  I've used one monitor with Logos for years, but a couple of friends have suggested I use two.  Is it that much benefit to you?  If so, why?

    Hugely beneficinal to use 2 monitors.

    I teach, so I'm writing all the time, and many of those are long documents. Having Logos on the laptop screen and the wordprocesor on the other is a no-brainer.

  • John
    John Member Posts: 710 ✭✭✭

    Hugely beneficinal to use 2 monitors

    I have used 3 monitors on my old Windows 7 machine for at least 15 years. What makes it work good is 3 identical monitors, and two graphics cards.

    These are low resolution monitors at 1920 x 1080p. I have experimented in the past, and I can assure you that the result is not good mixing monitors with different display sizes and/or differing dpi.

    Newer versions of Windows introduced some options to adjust scaling to try to make things appear the same size as monitors with differing specs.

    Once I bought my first iMac with a 27 inch 5K Retina display, this was not possible. I was unable to find extra monitors with the matching 5120 x 2880 resolution; let alone the high quality of the Apple Retina display.

    After I started learning the MacOS way of doing things, I discovered mission control and workspaces.

    There was a learning curve to adapt to the Apple way of doing things, but as I have found with so many things, the Apple way is superior to the Windows method.

    You can easily swipe between any number of additional desktops with a keypress or a 3-finger swipe on the touchpad. With a little practice, you can learn to do this faster than the time it takes you to turn your head and look at a different monitor. And this allows you to use multiple desktops even on a Macbook with only one screen.

    Another thought: having multiple monitors has had the advantage of not needing to heat my office in the winter, as the monitors put out enough heat to heat the whole room [:D]

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Did you save it (or "update") it with the two monitor setup established?

    Yes sir. I've tried multiple times.

    It has been a VERY long time since I have tried anything like that. However, I had problems with floating windows on previous versions of macOS when switching between devices and/or setups. Logos remembered the "ghost" monitor and I had troubles with windows in the ether. Sounds like the opposite problem from you! 

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  • Pastor Don Carpenter
    Pastor Don Carpenter Member Posts: 123 ✭✭✭

    I have been using multiple monitors for years.  My head deacon is also an IT guy for a living... he built me a new fancy and fast computer.  I swapped out my two way outdated 22" monitors for 2 32"... wow!   I am older and have fonts stupid large to make it easy to see for long periods of time... and this set up is a game changer!

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    Did you save it (or "update") it with the two monitor setup established?

    Yes sir. I've tried multiple times.

    It has been a VERY long time since I have tried anything like that. However, I had problems with floating windows on previous versions of macOS when switching between devices and/or setups. Logos remembered the "ghost" monitor and I had troubles with windows in the ether. Sounds like the opposite problem from you! 

    I tired floating windows in Windows...  it just didn't work for me. I seemed to always have trouble with the floating window and just couldn't get it to be stable. Probably my fault... but have trying and trying, I gave up. 

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭

    I have never gotten this to work.

    It's an oddity. Some installations of Windows allows the non-primary monitor to 'keep' the floating windows and some installations don't. My current one does not, so I have to drag items to the second monitor. My previous one did.

    I have sometimes wondered if there are settings (primary/secondary, mirror/duplicate) that might fix this issue, but have never played around with them enough to know.

    BTW, Jerry, I switched the display on the top right monitors as you suggested, and the workflow is indeed better. [H]

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  • Jason Nelson
    Jason Nelson Member Posts: 5

    John, do you use multiple monitors AND spaces as well? Either way, I'd love to hear more about how you have your Spaces configured. What is in each Space?

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,459

    John, do you use multiple monitors AND spaces as well? Either way, I'd love to hear more about how you have your Spaces configured. What is in each Space?

    Not John but incase you're intested.

    Using a MacBook and two monitors. I start off my sermon prep with the main Logos screen on one of the monitors. Two floating screens, each in its own space on the MacBook, 'Text Comparison' and 'Send Hyperlinks Here'. On the second screen I have my 'Sermon Document' and 'Copy Bible Verses' each in their own panel. In separate spaces are my Email Program, Safari, and various other programs.

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • Jason Nelson
    Jason Nelson Member Posts: 5

    Mike, thanks for the description. That's helpful. I should play around with Spaces more.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    My set up is simple.... I have a layout as such ...  One screen has my bible, my notes, my sermon building. The other screen has a floating page of my fav dictionary, ,my fav commentary and a Search. This is my startup layout. 

    I have some other layouts set up about the same way... so they utilize both screens.

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Jason Nelson
    Jason Nelson Member Posts: 5

    xnman said:

    My set up is simple.... I have a layout as such ...  One screen has my bible, my notes, my sermon building. The other screen has a floating page of my fav dictionary, ,my fav commentary and a Search. This is my startup layout. 

    I have some other layouts set up about the same way... so they utilize both screens.

    Thanks xnman. That helps!