Indexing and Indexing and Indexing and ...

When I went to bed last night, the L4B4 indexing icon in the systray had at gotten down to the last 192 resources. I just opened my computer this morning and indexing is back to 3,326 resources. At this rate, we'll never get the indexing complete.

To quote Rex Harrison's role as the Pope in the Agony and the Ecstasy whenever he would see Charleton Heston's character "when will you make an end to it." Of course, I'm not really anxious to hear Logos quote Charleton Heston's response "while it's done" but this sure seems like an awful lot of indexing -- with three or four installs of L4B4 and an indexing operation for each install, then some additional indexing, this is getting old.

Logos4Indexer.log

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Dale Durnell, Retired UM Clergy

system was running a little slow -- so I rebooted when the indexing was down to a couple hundred files -- should have cut the grass, gone to Tulsa again, or taken a nap. [:(] because now I'm back to indexing 3,387 files all over again. I've got work to do at the church to get ready for tomorrow -- don't want to be gone too long, but no need of rushing home if it'll be another 8 hours or more before I can use the system again

This is getting rediculous

Logos4Indexer.log

Dale Durnell, Retired UM Clergy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16579#Comment_16579

Whew! 12 hours later it's finished indexing -- It's nearly 1:30 in the morning -- I'm going to power this machine down and we'll see what it happens tomorrow. Prayerfully, it won't start indexing again for a couple of days.

I'm including the latest indexlog file -- I notice it's over 1mb in size -- hope the forum doesn't choke on it again

Logos4Indexer.log

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16630#Comment_16630

Dale, you are supposed to zip them. They are 10% of original this way.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16630#Comment_16630

Prayerfully, it won't start indexing again for a couple of days.

Better set things to improve your chances[:)]

Set Automatically Download Updates. to No and you will see a notification if a download is available.

Graceman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16642#Comment_16642

Dave,

How do I get an indexing file to post?

I also wanted to thank you for posting that procedure list for moving the program to a partition other than the C drive. I followed it and it worked well for me. I had a space problem on my C drive.

Once I moved to a wide open partition things went better, but the indexing was never finished. I decided to go through my resource folder and found a file from an application called SyncToy that I used a couple of years ago to keep my backup folder up to date. After I delete this file, I defragged my resource folder and the new installation of L4B4 after killing the indexer through taskmaster etc. Then I restarted L4B4 and the indexing was completed within an hour. I don't know what made the difference but I am sure glad it is over. For the first time I am able to use the L4B program on my desktop.

Thanks for sharing Dave. You have helped me again.

Beta, Beta, beta, beta gets better, better, better,

Pastor Chris McFarland

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16651#Comment_16651

How do I get an indexing file to post?

First zip it using Send to Compressed folder from the right click menu in Windows Explorer. When posting to the forum press Options at the top of the window, then press Add/Update to locate your file. Press Compose if you want to write some more.

Thanks for sharing Dave. You have helped me again.

My pleasure

Dale Durnell, Retired UM Clergy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16644#Comment_16644

Hi Dave -- good suggestion

But, I'm not sure it will help -- of three installations, I'm only experiencing this problem on one of my machines. Perhaps I spoke too -- just as I started to send this message I started L4B4 and it's reindexing this system again. I'm going to leave it up and running so that it will be finished by the time I get back in the office in the morning.

BUT, since I haven't downloaded any new files (that I know of), I don't that changing the auto d/l setting to NO would make any difference.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16681#Comment_16681

I don't that changing the auto d/l setting to NO would make any difference.

If it starts indexing with that set to NO you would have a definite bug!

Graceman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16666#Comment_16666

Dave,

Maybe I should have been a bit more specific. Posting a file is not my issue, rather where does the indexing come from that you post? How do I get an indexing file in the first place?

PCMcF

Dale Durnell, Retired UM Clergy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16666#Comment_16666

First zip it using Send to Compressed folder from the right click menu in Windows Explorer.

These are the only options I've got when I right click and choose "Send to"

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16725#Comment_16725

These are the only options I've got when I right click and choose "Send to"

You might have modified the Send to menu somewhere (what OS do you run?).

Try this http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/5/1/Restore-missing-Compressed-zipped-Folder-option-to-the-Send-To-menu.html

[If you have a zip program (WinZip, or probably a free equivalent) then go to its options and ensure its "Explorer enhancements" are ON. If not, then look for a "Zip utility"].

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16711#Comment_16711

Maybe I should have been a bit more specific. Posting a file is not my issue, rather where does the indexing come from that you post? How do I get an indexing file in the first place?

When Indexing takes place Logos4Indexer.log is created in the same place as all logos4 log files -> My Documents\Libronix Log Files.

Adrian Warnock

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/16756#Comment_16756

RE spec. I think you may have to look again at your spec. I tried this on a normal PC that was a couple of years old and the indexing simply never completed. I have had to give up, and for now will hold off till you have a beta for a PROPER computer, ie a MAC.... I hope we are not too far behind in the real world. I also SINCERELY hope that we are not expecting the release version to have to do an index of a users hard drive like this before it opens. I think that people are going to simply go MAD at that idea. I am normally a patient chappy and this indexing thing made me want to throw my computer across the room. (It also did get down to a few hundred files but then went back to the several thousand that I have) cant each book have an inbuilt index? Cant we somehow share the indexing task so it is only done once or something?

Bob Pritchett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/17279#Comment_17279

cant each book have an inbuilt index? Cant we somehow share the indexing task so it is only done once or something?

No.

:-)

We believe that fast searching of your entire library is one of the coolest things in Logos 4. Unfortunately, that absolutely requires that we build an index of your library. And your library is different from everyone else's. In Logos 3 each book does have an inbuilt index. That's why it takes forever to search your entire library in 3, and why the results come back "per book" instead of showing the top hits of your library at the top of the list.

Even if we shipped everyone a complete index of every book (which would be over 5 gigs), we'd have two problems: We'd have to filter the majority of the results of each search out, since you wouldn't own or have most of the books, and that would slow it down. And we'd have to ship you a new version of that 5 gig index every day, since we add a new title to our library almost daily, and a master index would have each new day's titles even if you hadn't purchased them.

I'm sorry about indexing -- we all hate it too -- but it's the price we pay for the cool cross-library searching. And we're doing everything we can to speed it up.

Damian McGrath

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/17871#Comment_17871

I'm sorry about indexing -- we all hate it too -- but it's the price we pay for the cool cross-library searching. And we're doing everything we can to speed it up.

I think we Beta testers are growing to hate it more and more each week. This is especially the case, I'd guess, for those with average computers and/or with large libraries. The average user will not have to deal with three re-indexings every week.

Nevertheless, I still do not want to reindex every time I add something to my library. Are there still plans to modify the way in which re-indexing happens?

spitzerpl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/17879#Comment_17879

Are there still plans to modify the way in which re-indexing happens?

Word has it from Logos (Bradley I think) that there working on making it so that adding a couple of books to the library does not require a re-index.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/17879#Comment_17879

Nevertheless, I still do not want to reindex every time I add something to my library. Are there still plans to modify the way in which re-indexing happens?

Look for a change in this area in Beta 6.

Damian McGrath

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/18243#Comment_18243

Look for a change in this area in Beta 6.

Champions!

Thanks....